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RUSH: Michael in Crawford, Texas<\/a>. Welcome to the program, sir. Hello.<\/line>CALLER: Hi, Rush, how are you?<\/line>RUSH: Just fine, sir.<\/line>CALLER: Hey, I wanted to give you a call and let you know that I agree with you a hundred percent. I\u2019m a retired military. I went out. I heard about all this hubbub with Cindy out here, so I thought, you know —<\/line>RUSH: Wait, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Cindy who?<\/line>CALLER: Cindy Sheehan.<\/line>RUSH: Oh. We\u2019re back to that. Okay.<\/line>CALLER: So I went out, and I had to see for myself, okay, what\u2019s going on out here, what\u2019s all the hubbub about. So I went out, and I decided that I needed to walk in amongst everyone, small little groups out there, protesters, and listen to what was actually being said, and I\u2019ll tell you what I heard. I never heard anything about Cindy\u2019s grief. I never heard — and I\u2019m sure she\u2019s grieving. Anyone who loses a child will grieve. I give her that. I never heard anything about her grief. I never heard anything mentioned from that group of people about Casey. The only thing I heard from group to group was a constant barrage of, “Hey, keep the pressure on. We\u2019ve got to get the Republicans out. We\u2019ve got to get Democrats in the upcoming election,” and I thought, “Oh, my gosh! Wait a minute. I thought this was a protest about the Iraq war and about Cindy\u2019s grief,” and it had nothing to do with that. There\u2019s no doubt in my mind that this protest has absolutely nothing to do with anything but the upcoming presidential election, and I say that from being able to walk amongst all those people and listen to them. I spoke with her. I shot pictures of her.<\/line>RUSH: Whoa, whoa, whoa. You spoke with who?<\/line><\/p>\n

CALLER: With Cindy Sheehan.<\/line>RUSH: You spoke with Cindy Sheehan? Did she cuss you out?<\/line> CALLER: No, but I gotta tell you: if they find out out there, they\u2019re not the nice people that CNN is showing. I saw them go over and just about attack a young girl who was very distraught because her brother had died in Iraq, and they had all those crosses up, and his name was on the cross. So the mother and the sister came out to remove that. They didn\u2019t want him to be a part of that, and so they encircled her, tried to stop her from being able to get the cross, she finally did. They were just about at the point of attacking her, told her that her brother was a murderer, that he had killed innocent people, and that he died for nothing.<\/line>RUSH: (Laughing.) Oh, God.<\/line>CALLER: You know, and as a photographer I understand, you know —<\/line>RUSH: Well, now, I gotta stop you there on that, Michael, because they\u2019re parroting what Cindy Sheehan is saying when they tell you that. They believe that independently of her, but that is part of her message that Bush is a murderer, and so they\u2019re telling these parents that want their sons and daughters\u2019 names off these crosses, they come down and try to remove the crosses and the names that their kids are just murderers?<\/line>CALLER: You\u2019re right. They will encircle them. They\u2019ll do everything they can to stop them, and they are, and I have to tell you, now, they are not a peaceful group of people out there. They can be very vicious. I watched as I was speaking to a group of Bush supporters, it was a small group, granted, but it was a group out there supporting our military, supporting the president, and I turned and I saw a group of gentlemen over with Cindy, and they had a young boy probably about ten years old, and they kept sending him over to say things to try to antagonize the conservative group over there in support of the president.<\/line>RUSH: Let me stop you. Did this really surprise you? I mean, it should be well known who these people are. They\u2019re nothing but filled with rage. They\u2019re angry, they\u2019re miserable, and they\u2019re trying to make everybody else miserable at the same time.<\/line>CALLER: You\u2019re right.<\/line>RUSH: And you\u2019re right, this is all about electoral politics. This is just the latest incarnation, I\u2019m going to add the Wellstone memorial to it, the latest incarnation of the Wellstone memorial or the opportunity that Bill Burkett provided the left along with the media and the Jersey Girls and Richard Clarke. It\u2019s obvious what this is, and they\u2019re using Cindy Sheehan and her grief as a shield to give themselves credibility and to hide what their real motivations for being there are. That\u2019s why they\u2019re exploiting her.<\/line>CALLER: Exactly. I\u2019m not shocked at all.<\/line>RUSH: Are they out there raising money? Michael, are they raising money, passing the hat trying to get people to give them money?<\/line>CALLER: I didn\u2019t see them passing a hat but I did take a picture of her sitting in her van and I was standing right beside the van door listening to a conversation, and she just lit up like her world just got, you know, fantastic, and I heard her say, and I quote, that it is increasing by about a thousand dollars a day. So what I took that to mean and in talking to some of the other people out there, they\u2019re out aggressively trying to earn money and so what I heard her say is the one — I took it to mean that they had the website going, and that they were increasing their funds by about a thousand dollars a day.<\/line>RUSH: Oh, it\u2019s not just one website. They got all kinds of websites. MoveOn.org is down there, and I\u2019m sure Soros got some people down there and they\u2019re all using this, they\u2019re all using her, they\u2019re all using the occasion to advance themselves to raise money, and then you\u2019ve got this silly, unquestioning without any curiosity sycophantic media. And you know what the media\u2019s excuse is? “Well, Rush, you know, it\u2019s the slow dog days of August. There\u2019s no other news out there.” Ever heard of Able Danger and Colonel Shaffer? There\u2019s lots of news out there. I talk about it all the time. I can fill a program every three hours without ever once mentioning Cindy Sheehan\u2019s name. I\u2019ve been doing it all week long. There\u2019s plenty of news — they want this story, and they want it cast exactly as it is being.<\/line>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line>RUSH: All right, we have a bit of a dispute amongst ourselves here at the Southern Command of the Excellence in Broadcasting Network. Our last caller was Michael from Crawford, Texas. Mr. Snerdley has his doubts about the veracity and the honesty of our previous caller, and here\u2019s why. <\/line>Snerdley said to me during the break, “I just don\u2019t believe this guy, Rush. I think you\u2019re too open. You accept these people. They call here, and they just say anything.” <\/line>I said, “What do you mean?”<\/line>“Okay, the guy says he\u2019s down there one day. He\u2019s there one day and he goes walking through this camp of vigilers — vigilists, whatever they\u2019re doing down there, the Cindy Sheehan squatters camp — and he\u2019s telling all these stories about fund-raising and they\u2019re calling people that died in Iraq murderers when their parents want to come and take their names off the crosses and that they\u2019re all excited about how much money they\u2019re raising down there, and, Rush, the guy\u2019s been there one day. We\u2019ve been listening to the media for two weeks on this story, and they haven\u2019t said one thing about that. Now, why do you think this guy is telling the truth? He was just there for one day, and he didn\u2019t sound like he was there, by the way. He sounded like he was in air-conditioned comfort to me. I didn\u2019t hear any sounds like he was outside and sweating and any of that? What makes you believe him?”<\/line><\/p>\n

Snerdley is asking me this during the break, and I said, “Well, I\u2019ll have to stop and think about this,” because Snerdley has a point, folks. He\u2019s got a point. Here\u2019s our buddy Michael from Crawford, and he calls. He\u2019s in there one day. He\u2019s a photographer; he\u2019s in there one day — oh, and get this. After his call was over, he wanted to tell the call screener one more thing. The call screener told me during the break that this guy said that he stayed at a motel last night, and do you know who was in the room below his? Cindy Sheehan. Now, that makes me also doubt this guy. Snerdley may have a point, because the media says that she\u2019s 24\/7 in the ditch, that this is a vigil, and then we heard that some guy who\u2019s got a ranch about a mile away offered his ranch to Cindy to stay there when the heat was getting a little bit oppressive and a lot of attention, the media. There was more parking down there. This guy was just trying to be a good citizen and I don\u2019t know if she took him up on it or not. But I mean the media is telling us that this woman is roughing it out there using Port-A-Potties and tree leaves for toilet paper and so forth and she\u2019s out there 24\/7, she\u2019s in the ditch and she is in the midst of a vigil and here comes this guy out of nowhere calling us and telling all these harebrained stories, he was only there one day. I don\u2019t know what to do. Who do we believe? Yeah, well, I forgot to ask if he knows Christopher Hitchens<\/a>. (Laughing.) No, obviously, my friends, we\u2019re illustrating absurdity by being absurd. The point is, here\u2019s a guy who goes down there and spends a day, not even a full day down there, to get the full story of what\u2019s going on and what he tells us is not reflective of one thing we\u2019ve heard from the mainstream press about this little gaggle of squatters down there ostensibly engaged in a vigil for the sad fate of the murder of Cindy Sheehan\u2019s son by George W. Bush, the president. He did tell us that Sheehan was in the motel room below him. She\u2019s not out there in the ditch. She\u2019s not using tree leaves for toilet paper. She\u2019s got all the comforts that a fine Texas motel can offer. Joni in Bradenton, Florida<\/a>, welcome to the EIB Network. Nice to have you with us.<\/line>CALLER: Hey, Rush, listen I just wanted to tell you it just makes me want to throw up about what a liar President Clinton is when you play that audio of him saying, “Oh, I guess I was too obsessed with trying to get Osama bin Laden.”<\/line>RUSH: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Let\u2019s listen to the tape again because that\u2019s not what he said, it\u2019s even better than that. Let\u2019s listen to it and then give me your comments afterwards, because you\u2019re commenting on, people may not have heard it, we played it a little while ago, it\u2019s a tape from September 3rd, 2002, Bob Dole and Bill Clinton are on Larry King Live, and King asks Clinton, “Do you remember what you were thinking, Mr. President, at the time the twin towers went up, what would go through the mind of the immediate former president watching this?” (SEE: Clinton\u2019s “Virtual Obsession” with Bin Laden<\/a>)<\/line>CLINTON: I remember exactly what happened. Bruce Lindsey said to me on the phone, “My God, a second plane has hit the tower,” and I said, “Bin Laden did this.” That\u2019s the first thing I said. He said, “How can you be sure?” I said, “Because only bin Laden and the Iranians could set up the network to do this and they wouldn\u2019t do it because they have a country in targets, bin Laden did.”<\/line>KING: Did you also think at the same time we came pretty close to getting him?<\/line>CLINTON: Yeah. I thought that my virtual obsession with him —<\/line>RUSH: (Laughing.) <\/line>CLINTON: — was well placed and I was full of regret that I didn\u2019t get him. I mean, I immediately thought that he\u2019d done it.<\/line>RUSH: (Laughing.)<\/line>CALLER: Oh, my God.<\/line>RUSH: My virtual obsession. Virtual is right, you know, these virtual reality games, virtual obsession. So he was obsessed with bin Laden, he was presented to him twice, maybe three times in the Sudan. He didn\u2019t want to deal with it. This is just comical as it can be. What is your comment about it?<\/line>CALLER: Exactly, and as I say it just makes you want to throw up. If you read Lieutenant Colonel Patterson\u2019s book, Dereliction of Duty<\/a>, he cites numerous occasions when our Special Ops guys actually had bin Laden right in their sights and they were calling in for the okay to get him, and they said we can capture him or we can kill him either way and Lieutenant Colonel Patterson who, you know, carried the nuclear football for Clinton at his side for four years relayed the message from Sandy Berger and he said they can get him, they have an hour of opportunity, they need to know, they need an answer, what do you want him to do, and Clinton kept saying I\u2019ll get back to them, I\u2019ll get back to them and he would go into like a VIP room and schmooze at a golf tournament while they were waiting.<\/line>RUSH: Hey, hey, hey, hey. Don\u2019t be too hard on golf. Don\u2019t blame golf tournaments for what Clinton didn\u2019t do with bin Laden.<\/line>CALLER: Yeah, but he was using that room to sit there and avoid going and getting our Special Ops guys who are desperate for the word to take the guy out.<\/line>RUSH: I know.<\/line>CALLER: They wouldn\u2019t do it. Oh, it just makes me…<\/line>RUSH: It makes you want to throw up.<\/line>CALLER: It does, and how come Lieutenant Colonel Patterson wasn\u2019t interviewed by the 9\/11 Commission if they were trying to get to the bottom of what really happened?<\/line>RUSH: Because they weren\u2019t.<\/line>CALLER: Right.<\/line>RUSH: They weren\u2019t trying to get to the bottom of it, it was a whitewash. It was, as I say, two purposes. It was nail Bush if possible, protect Clinton at the least, and if those two both fail make sure that no Washington elitist from the political class gets nailed in this. That was the purpose. These guys are going to circle the wagons around each other. There\u2019s no question about (interruption). What is this, now? Okay, now Snerdley — Joni, pardon me. Can you hang on here just a second?<\/line>CALLER: I\u2019m sorry, Rush. Sure I can go.<\/line>RUSH: Pardon?<\/line>CALLER: I can hang up, that\u2019s okay.<\/line>RUSH: No, I don\u2019t want you to hang up. I want you to hold on.<\/line>CALLER: Okay.<\/line>RUSH: Put her on hold out there so (interruption). Snerdley, stop this. I don\u2019t know what\u2019s gotten into you. Snerdley interrupted me during a brilliant response to what she was saying by telling me he doesn\u2019t believe her either because he hadn\u2019t heard any of this in the mainstream press. “She can quote any book that this guy Patterson wrote, but the mainstream press hasn\u2019t reported it, so how can we trust it?” What\u2019s gotten into you? I haven\u2019t seen one story that supports this. I\u2019ve not seen it on ABC. I\u2019ve not seen it on NBC. I\u2019ve not seen it on CBS. I\u2019ve not. So he\u2019s raising his hands in victory. So now two people in a row. You think this woman from Bradenton, Florida is a kook because she\u2019s relying on this Patterson guy who you think is a kook and then this photographer down at Crawford you think is a kook because we haven\u2019t heard any of this in the mainstream press? Okay, point taken. Bring Joni back here. Joni, I\u2019m sorry for that interruption. I\u2019m losing control of Snerdley here today. Are you back?<\/line>CALLER: Yes, yes, Rush, thank you.<\/line>RUSH: Let me answer your question about, okay, Clinton is told by Burglar, “Okay, we\u2019ve got an hour. The Special Ops guys want to go get him.” I have two theories on this. The first theory is: I don\u2019t think Bill Clinton in his entire eight years wanted to deal with one thing big. I don\u2019t think he wanted to deal with anything that risked his poll numbers. I don\u2019t think he wanted to do anything that would risk his legacy.<\/line>CALLER: That\u2019s right.<\/line>RUSH: I think he wanted to preside over a decade that after it was over he could say was the best in America, we had no worries, the Soviets had been defeated, the Cold War was over, we had the peace dividend, we could spend it left and right, we could concentrate on making the country whole, and we could do all these wonderful things, had this great, roaring economy. He didn\u2019t want to deal with hard issues. I think that\u2019s why the Able Danger guys had trouble getting the news of Mohamed Atta to this administration back in \u201999 and 2000. They didn\u2019t want to deal with this, and that\u2019s one of the reasons for the wall. They build the wall and they handle these cases as though they\u2019re legal cases, they sent all the data to the grand jury, and Clinton didn\u2019t want this going to the grand jury. He didn\u2019t want the news that bin Laden was in sight because the answer would have been from Clinton, (doing impression) “Well, I can\u2019t just assassinate somebody! Frank Church says I can\u2019t do that. The CIA can\u2019t assassinate. I just can\u2019t do that. We\u2019ve got nothing on this guy, nothing whatsoever, so training camp out there or whatever. I can\u2019t do anything about it. I can\u2019t do it.” The reason he didn\u2019t want to do it is because he was afraid of the reaction in the bin Laden world and he had no stomach for it, and yet, after 9\/11 happens, the Clinton people start bellyaching and whining and moaning about how nothing big happened on their watch. Clinton never had a real chance for greatness like Bush did, and they were lamenting that if 9\/11 was going to happen, why couldn\u2019t it have happened when Clinton was in the office?<\/line>CALLER: Right.<\/line>RUSH: This administration is as psychosomatic as its leader was, and the more time passes, the more we learn, thanks to guys like Buzz Patterson, it isn\u2019t going to be long before everybody understands just what incompetence and selfish self-absorption dominated the day for eight years in that White House.<\/line>CALLER: That\u2019s absolutely right, because until the American people actually have the guts — and especially those senators, Republican senators in Washington — to call it like it is, it was because of this guy and no guts and he hated the military and he didn\u2019t want to be involved and all he cared about was his legacy, that 3,000 innocent mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters have been murdered, and nobody has the guts to say it. Somebody needs to read Lt. Colonel Patterson\u2019s book<\/a>. He was the one that was right there standing next to him. And you know, like you said, why isn\u2019t he being interviewed by ABC and why isn\u2019t the New York Times doing an investigation of what he has to say? But they are sure as heck investigating whether President Bush went to the dentist.<\/line>RUSH: See, everybody knows the answers to these questions. They didn\u2019t want this kind of thing. To them all these people are kooks, and all these theories are wacko and conspiratorial and they don\u2019t want any part of it. Joni, I\u2019m glad you called, but I\u2019m up against it on time. I have to run. Thanks for your patience with us because I had to deal with Snerdley again.<\/line>END TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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