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RUSH: Dave in Des Moines. Glad you waited, sir. Welcome to the EIB Network.<\/line>CALLER: Hello. I\u2019d like to mention, first of all, I\u2019m one of those leftists. However, I believe that the war on terror, it\u2019s sort of like a virus that invades a cell. Once it\u2019s invaded and it makes the cell do bad things then, of course, you have to destroy it just like cancer cells. Once it invades the body, of course, wherever cell it\u2019s at, I believe it should be destroyed as such. But the problem is the future cells. How do we prevent the cancerous or viruses from infecting the good cells, and I think that\u2019s the question we should have. The thing of London, I appall, and of course I\u2019ll be the first one to call or, you know, do whatever I can to prevent somebody who\u2019s going to do some bad act. The question I have is the good cells. How do you prevent future terrorist attacks ten years from now by these kids being recruited by such evil movements?<\/line>RUSH: Well, now, that is a good question. I\u2019m really happy you asked that question. I\u2019m going to tell you what I think, and I hope you listen to it, David, because it\u2019s an excellent question. You\u2019ve hit a home run with this question because you\u2019re essentially asking: How do you win the war on terror? And before answering this, I know what he\u2019s saying. Okay, we\u2019ve got these young kids that are being bred and raised to literally hate the West, anything not Islamic, and they\u2019re being fed a distorted version of the Koran, and they\u2019re being taught that it\u2019s religious and God-like to engage in these kinds of acts. So how do we stop this? Even if we\u2019re to wipe out every terrorist today, how do we stop this? Well, the first honest thing to say in answer to that is: We never will totally wipe it out. There are always going to be, even when we have the greatest success imaginable, there are going to be renegades; there are always going to be insane people, and it only takes one wacko to cause something like this to happen of a smaller or even larger scale. Let a wacko get hold of a suitcase nuke someday. It just takes one. But the answer to your question in the long term is the context in which it needs to be answered and I\u2019m going to say to you, at the risk of causing you to have a reaction that would make you disregard everything that follows, I\u2019m still going to say it. That\u2019s why we\u2019re in Iraq and Afghanistan. The answer is something that the American left cares deeply about in this country, and that\u2019s education. If you\u2019re asking about future generations — how do we raise our kids? How do we raise our future generations? We do it with the age-old guidelines and guardrails that have been handed down to us culturally from our existence: morality, teaching right and wrong, civilized behavior, right and wrong. <\/line>Well, the same thing is happening in militant Islamic countries but they\u2019ve got a whole different definition of morality, whole different definition of right and wrong. What\u2019s right to them is killing us. What\u2019s wrong is not killing us. So the purpose of the war on terror and the mission in Iraq and Afghanistan is to establish in that part of the world where that kind of hatred is being bred and raised, societies of free people who are not living under imams and mullahs who are forcing their kids into schools such as they are now, but letting people who are human beings just like we are determine their own fate as free people. The theory behind Iraq, Dave, and Afghanistan is that we Americans are no different in terms of being human beings than anybody else on the planet. We\u2019re not special. We\u2019re not better. We\u2019ve got the same DNA. We\u2019re all human beings. The thing that sets us apart is freedom. We have founding documents that encapsulate the reasons for our freedom, come from our creation, that\u2019s the natural essence of the human spirit is freedom, to not be confined, to not be shackled, to be free, to move about and seek excellence and happiness, pursuit of happiness and contentment to the best of our ability and ambition. Well, most of the people of the world don\u2019t have that. They live under dictatorial, thuggish regimes, and when you get to the militant Islamic countries you\u2019re talking about not just dictatorial, but you\u2019re talking about fourteenth century militant religious dictatorial regimes, and they are breeding this hatred and they are raising kids to think that it is normal. So you go to Iraq, you go to Afghanistan and you show that people there are no different than people here. Once they have freedom, they will seek it. We trust free people in this country. We as human beings trust free people to do the right things. <\/line><\/p>\n

We trust free people to make decisions of their own self-interest that are good for all, for their families, for their neighbors, what have you. You\u2019re going to have the renegades; you\u2019re going to have criminals everywhere you go. Don\u2019t misunderstand. I\u2019m not trying to be pie-in-the-sky about this, but the United States experience is the model for the world, in my opinion. It\u2019s right under our nose. Yet too many people say, “We can\u2019t impose our way of life on people! It\u2019s not fair. They must choose their own.” Fine. We\u2019re letting them choose their own in Iraq, although I don\u2019t think there\u2019s anything wrong with imposing our way of life on people because I don\u2019t think freedom is an imposition. I think the cure for Africa is to become a United States. Let them learn to trade; let them learn to manufacture; let them learn to create their own wealth, not have it handed to them. Just creating a giant welfare state out of the country with more unending aid. Let them create it themselves. They\u2019re capable of it, they\u2019re human beings, let them be free, get rid of their Robert Mugabes and the Idi Amin Dadas and all the others and watch them take off. The theory holds in Iraq, and it\u2019s already taking root. We\u2019ve had elections. The people there have determined a government. They are establishing it for themselves. They are establishing a police force; they\u2019re getting their schools up and running, and we trust that they\u2019re not going to want any part of militant Islam and we know it because the insurgents are doing everything they can to keep freedom from coming to those people. That\u2019s why Iraq is so crucial. <\/line>The insurgents, the terrorists, the militant Islamists sent there by the mullahs and the imams around world to make sure this doesn\u2019t happen because the greatest threat to militant Islamo-fascism is freedom, because people will not choose the kind of bondage that they are being forced to live under in places like Saudi Arabia or Iran or the former Iraq. Iraq is not going to choose another Saddam Hussein to lead it, I guarantee you, if they are free to act on their own. They\u2019re going to get together. They\u2019re going to have democratic arguments and fights. They\u2019re going to have elections. Some are going to win some are going to lose. They\u2019re doing it over and over and over again, but they\u2019re going to want the best for their kids just like we want the best for ours and they know that the best for their kids is to not have the kid taught how to learn how to fly a Boeing 757 into a building in the United States. Now, this is going to take generations. This is going to take time. This is why people like me continually stress that this is a long-term vision and any impatience here is only going to be a detriment. We\u2019ve tried to do the other way. We\u2019ve tried. We\u2019ve had terrorism like this for, I don\u2019t know, in this form at least 25 years, and terrorism throughout human history, and we\u2019ve tried appeasing it. We\u2019ve tried negotiating. We\u2019ve tried ignoring it. We\u2019ve tried pretending it doesn\u2019t happen, but we\u2019ve never tried to reform it — and it\u2019s the only way. That\u2019s the answer to your question. How do you keep more cancer cells from being produced? <\/line>You get rid of the elements that produce and cause the cancer. You ban the tobacco from the society, speaking metaphorically — and it\u2019s a long process. That\u2019s why, Dave, people like me think Iraq is a profound success, because we look at that as the reason. We don\u2019t look at weapons of mass destruction or any of that, that was something dealt with. But the long-term goal here is to create an outpost in that region where other people in surrounding Arab countries can see, “Wow, look at those Iraqis. Look what they\u2019ve got. They\u2019re making up their own minds. They\u2019re going to work where they want everyday. They\u2019re starting their own businesses. They\u2019ve got an economy that\u2019s functioning,” and that\u2019s what the imams and the mullahs in Iran are deathly afraid of and trying to prevent from happening. But that\u2019s the solution to it. There may be others that I haven\u2019t thought of, but in the context of your question, that\u2019s how I would answer it. You can\u2019t defeat them militarily totally. This generation you can. You can intimidate, and you can take the military action so as to intimidate them from continually thinking they can hit us — and that\u2019s why it\u2019s not helpful when certain people in this country say things that seem to stroke and motivate our opponents, sounding just like them. We don\u2019t need people in this country ripping this country to shreds in terms used by our enemies and yet it\u2019s happening way, way too often. <\/line>If we were united in this country, if we all understood what the purpose here was, that it\u2019s all about guarding against another terrorist attack for our kids and grandkids, all about making sure there\u2019s not another 9\/11 — or if there is, we\u2019ll know of it in enough time to stop it. That\u2019s what we\u2019re trying to achieve. But as long as we\u2019re not united here and the voices of opposition to this continually misrepresent what our objective is, and continually misrepresent our purpose as just “we want oil, Bush and Cheney want oil, or Halliburton needs more money,” or what have you, as long as it keeps being obfuscated like that, it\u2019s just going to make the task all that much more difficult, as World War II would have been that much more difficult had we not been unified in beating Hitler and Japan and all the others, Mussolini, that we faced. So it\u2019s not easy. It\u2019s very, very hard. But the answer ultimately, the short version is, we have to establish circumstances that we know exist because they work here. Culturally it doesn\u2019t matter; all cultures come to this country and thrive because of freedom. We need to establish the same circumstances where human beings around the world have the same grand, God-given freedom we do to determine their own fate. The vast majority of free people want to pursue life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, not learning how to fly airplanes into buildings. <\/line>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: This is Randy in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. Hello, sir, welcome. Nice to have you with us.<\/line>CALLER: God, what an honor. God bless you, Rush. I got turned on to you by my uncle years ago when you came to Wait Chapel at Wake Forest, and he said, “You gotta come down and see this Rush guy,” and I said, “Rush? Come on.” But ever since then you\u2019ve just been a blessing to me and my family and I appreciate you.<\/line>RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/line>CALLER: But I disagree with you on this. It\u2019s probably one of the first things I\u2019ve ever disagreed with you on. We don\u2019t need to waste our time trying to educate these people. We need to kill them before they kill us and that\u2019s pretty much the only solution that I see.<\/line> RUSH: Well, I thought I\u2019d been clear. That\u2019s what we\u2019re doing now; we\u2019re trying to kill the adult terrorists now before they kill us. That is what we\u2019re doing. It\u2019s a two-pronged strategy. I totally agree with that. I\u2019m only talking about the long term, future generations. That was the question. He asked me (paraphrasing), “If we wipe out these guys today, how do we stop the future terrorists that are going to be born?” That was my answer. But I\u2019m not talking about finding the equivalent of Mohamed Atta and saying, “Hey, Mohammed, can I give you freedom and maybe you\u2019ll change your life?” I\u2019m not talking about that. Those guys are beyond education. They\u2019re adults. They\u2019re poisoned. You know, their lives have been molded, so don\u2019t misunderstand. The strategy here is exactly what you suggest. That\u2019s exactly what we\u2019re doing, we\u2019re trying to kill as many of them as we can find. Actually, we\u2019re not. We\u2019re capturing as many as we can find. If they\u2019re not shooting at us, we\u2019re capturing them and then we\u2019re bringing them to various prisons where we\u2019re trying to find out what they know about where future attacks are. But we can\u2019t really get what we need from them because we\u2019ve got too much people in this country who are saying you can\u2019t mistreat them or can\u2019t torture them or you can\u2019t — and the definition of torture today is anything that causes any stress to these people who, were they roaming free, would be joining bands of marauding terrorists trying to kill us. <\/line>So, you know, we\u2019re allowing certain people to tie our hands in a whole number of ways. Perhaps the answer is don\u2019t capture any of them, just wipe them out, you know, wipe them out and explain that away later. But we\u2019re capturing them. And of course we\u2019ve got people, “They gotta have trials, and we\u2019re going to have to give them lawyers,” and they have access to the US Constitution. Terrorist prisoners of war. It is being said by the ACLU and certain legal groups and certain judges, “Why, they need access to lawyers, and the US legal system.” All right, how many of them are down at Club G\u2019itmo, 530 some — can you imagine 530 trials with the average US lawyer defending these guys? They\u2019ll be out in two weeks. Can you imagine, the US attorney\u2019s offices around the country trying to gear up cases against these guys? You don\u2019t fight wars this way. We\u2019re tying our hands in a whole bunch of ways in terms of dealing with the immediate threat. And this is why just to show you, Randy, that you and I are on the same page, all this talk during the last campaign, Kerry said “Why, we need to beef up the ports, we need to beef up the cargo areas.” Senator, we don\u2019t have the manpower. You\u2019d have to take every citizen away from the job he or she has and put them on permanent watch duty. That\u2019s not the way you deal with it. The way you deal with it is you go over where they are and you wipe them out so that can\u2019t get to the ports, the airports or whatever. And when you go try do that, well, then you can\u2019t do that because Iraq is a mistake, you get Nancy Pelosi out there muttering a bunch of absurdities. Thank goodness we have a president who\u2019s not listening. But Lord knows let one of these people get in charge of this, and a major, major setback will result.<\/line>END TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n

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