{"id":225335,"date":"2017-03-14T13:00:00","date_gmt":"2017-03-14T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/?p=225335"},"modified":"2017-03-15T16:23:09","modified_gmt":"2017-03-15T20:23:09","slug":"do-they-really-want-to-repeal-obamacare","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2017\/03\/14\/do-they-really-want-to-repeal-obamacare\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Does Repealing Obamacare Look Just Like Implementing Obamacare?"},"content":{"rendered":"

RUSH: Is it not becoming clear that there are a lot of people that do not want to repeal Obamacare? I mean, what we\u2019re having to listen to now is the same gobbledygook we had to listen to when they were trying to sell us Obamacare. The CBO numbers, the prediction, the cost overruns, the numbers of people that lose health care.<\/p>\n

Some people are now saying… The ACLU\u2019s now got a story out, the number of millions of people who will die, or maybe it\u2019s not the ACLU. Maybe it\u2019s a Democrat politician. The number of people that will die if Obamacare is repealed. Did you…? Somebody\u2019s even saying that if we defund Planned Parenthood, there\u2019s going to be a population explosion that will stress the country. No kidding! That may be the first correct analysis of what happens at Planned Parenthood than I\u2019ve seen in a long time, and I don\u2019t know if the people that did this actually realize what they\u2019ve done.<\/p>\n

“Defunding Planned Parenthood will result in a unplanned population explosion!” (chuckles) Yeah, right. “What about the mammograms?” Well, they don\u2019t do mammograms there. But it just seems to me, folks… You know, it helps to go off the grid. I went off the grid yesterday and I didn\u2019t spend a whole lot of time on Sunday. The reason why is \u2019cause I knew I would be back on Tuesday. The news that\u2019s made on Saturday and Sunday is irrelevant. I\u2019ve tested it. You know, I prepare.<\/p>\n

\"\"Even when I\u2019m gonna be gone on a Monday, I work Saturday and Sunday like I\u2019m gonna be there on Monday, and I prepare everything. And then when Tuesday comes, all that news is irrelevant because it\u2019s been replaced by newer news. So I was off the grid, and I just go back on the grid late last night and, of course, this morning. And this repeal Obamacare thing, we\u2019ve been here; done that. Everything that I\u2019m hearing about it we\u2019ve heard before. “CBO forecasts these number of people lose health insurance, this number of people die, this happens to the deficit, this doesn\u2019t happen to the deficit, this happens to the national debt, the deficit will be reduced by $337 billion by 2026…”<\/p>\n

Big whoop. Who cares. How in the world is that relevant. All I know is that the Congressional Budget Office does not and cannot predict dynamic accounts of things versus statistic. All the CBO can do is deal with the numbers they are given. Everybody says, “Well, CBO, Rush! You have to understand, CBO is nonpartisan.” There\u2019s no such thing, folks, as nonpartisan in Washington, D.C.! I defy anybody to find for me an intelligent person in Washington who is nonpartisan. That, to me, is a human impossibility, particularly now in this climate.<\/p>\n

But yet we hear over and over, “The CBO? Yes, my friends, it\u2019s totally nonpartisan,” and they tell us this because they want to sucker us into believing and not questioning whatever they say there. But the CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, does what the name implies. It\u2019s only as good as the numbers they\u2019re given. So people that write legislation turn the legislation over to the CBO, and the supposedly nonpartisan bean counters and whatever they are in there, they tear it apart, upside down, inside out.<\/p>\n

\"\"They start running the numbers and they issue a report, and they tell us what will happen to the federal budget: How many people get covered, how many people won\u2019t get covered. But what they don\u2019t do (because they can\u2019t, they\u2019re not equipped to do it and it\u2019s not their charter) is they don\u2019t account for what any change in the legislation might mean for human behavior.<\/p>\n

So if the legislation institutes a tax increase, the CBO just calculates how many new money\u2019s gonna be raised. They do not stop to think, “What if that tax increase kills jobs?” They don\u2019t go there. It\u2019s not their job; they don\u2019t know how to do it. They just accept that everything in the legislation is going to be accepted and acted on without question by the people of the country; that never happens. So a CBO score to me is irrelevant, for that and a whole lot of other reasons.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH:\u00a0 Yeah, I don\u2019t know folks.\u00a0 I\u2019m looking at this whole Obamacare repeal and replace, and I swear this getting rid of it and replacing it sounds and looks exactly like the same stuff that we heard and had to digest and put up with when it was being devised.\u00a0 Why would repealing this look like that?<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019m watching Schumer and I\u2019m watching Pelosi, and they\u2019re coming out with their reaction to this Ryan-Trump Obamacare repeal and replace, and I\u2019m watching what I\u2019ve watched I can\u2019t tell you how many times. In 1995, the Republican budget, the Newt Gingrich budget was gonna starve children. We were gonna cut the school lunch program and children were gonna starve and the Democrats had school kids all over the country writing congressmen begging them to feed them.<\/p>\n

\"\"That they couldn\u2019t learn if they were hungry. “Education would be a waste, Mr. Congressman, if you refuse to feed me lunch.” I\u2019m watching this saying, “There\u2019s no way this works. There is no way responsible citizens in this country will accept the idea that Republicans want the children of Americans to starve!” And yet it worked. And Newt Gingrich and the boys lost whatever energy they had. There was a government shutdown as part of that. I don\u2019t want to relive all that.<\/p>\n

My point is, I\u2019m watching a replay of every technique the Democrats have ever used. Today, I had to hear how many people are gonna get killed if Obamacare\u2019s repealed. Then I had to hear how many people are gonna die. Then I had to hear how many people are gonna lose health insurance. Then I had to hear how many people who had health insurance were gonna pay everything they ever earned for the rest of their lives and what their kids earned if they wanted to keep it.<\/p>\n

I mean, I heard every horror story I\u2019ve ever heard about everything that Republicans have anything to do with since the beginning of the time I started paying attention to it. So I saw history repeating itself, and I said, “Why is this this complicated?” And then something hit me upside the head. This country has a lot that needs to be fixed, and the people that voted for Donald Trump really, really believe that Trump is the guy that\u2019s going to finally address it. And I think he was. I\u2019m not disputing that.<\/p>\n

But look, folks, I\u2019m sorry here. If we can\u2019t even get rid of the most disastrous government boondoggle program of our lifetimes, and if our method of getting rid of it is to create a new entitlement or welfare… I saw a member of Congress on… (interruption) Snerdley is saying, “Yeah, but millions will lose their coverage!” Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. If you are no longer forced to buy… Let\u2019s say if somebody chooses not to buy cable TV after having had it for several years.<\/p>\n

If they choose, if they decide not to buy cable after having it for several years, do we describe that as them having lost it? Yes, we do! The Democrats will say it. If somebody decides not to do health care \u2019cause they can\u2019t afford it ore not to do cable TV, the Democrats are immediately out with, “The Republicans caused X to lose their cable, caused X to lose their health insurance.” If you are no longer forced to buy it and you choose not to buy it again, did you lose it?<\/p>\n

If a person buys health insurance but the deductible is so high that they don\u2019t use it, was that person ever really covered? No! All this talk that twenty million people will lose their coverage? Nobody knows these numbers are true or not. It\u2019s all fear. It\u2019s all crisis mentality. My point is larger than this. There\u2019s a lot that needs fixing. There\u2019s a lot culturally. Trump talked about all of it during the campaign. This was right up there, this and tax reform.<\/p>\n

\"\"And now look at that. I mean, we\u2019ve got the Senate saying, “Tax reform? That\u2019s not happening by August. That\u2019s not even happening this year.” Really? Then what was the election about? I mean, everybody on both sides admits Obamacare\u2019s imploding, do they not? Even the Democrats admit that it is spiraling, quote, unquote, out of control.<\/p>\n

Well, if we can\u2019t get rid of something that is this disastrous and come up with something to replace it — we\u2019re smart people. We\u2019ve got the best health care system in the world. We have the most open, free market in the world. If we can\u2019t come up with something that replaces the biggest disaster in terms of entitlements in our lifetime, what of the rest of the agenda?<\/p>\n

“But this is really hard, Rush.” I know it\u2019s hard because of the expectations that have been created about Obamacare, health care, people having it as a right and so forth. I haven\u2019t changed my attitude on bureaucracies and government. They\u2019re not the best place to tackle complicated things like this. Markets sort out whatever problems there are.<\/p>\n

Preexisting conditions. You realize the whole mess about preexisting conditions — now, people disagree with me on varying degrees of this. I think it is a huge element of what\u2019s blocking moving forward on this. Now, some people say, “It\u2019s not that big a deal, Rush. It\u2019s not as big a deal as you\u2019re making it out to be.” Well, it is in terms of it being used as an excuse.<\/p>\n

Well, why can\u2019t we separate that bunch of people? Do you realize we set up high-risk pools in Obamacare to deal with preexisting conditions, and people were allowed to join these high risk pools. Nobody did. The mechanism that was set up to handle preexisting knows, the high-risk pools, nobody sought them out, nobody joined \u2019em. They were an abysmal failure.<\/p>\n

Preexisting conditions is not even insurance. It needs to be a separate program if we\u2019re gonna deal with it. If we\u2019re gonna make the decision that somebody who already has cancer or already has diabetes can get insurance and have somebody else pay for their care, we need to set it up specifically and separately as what it is, call it an entitlement program, reap the political rewards for caring about people. But don\u2019t put it in with the rest of health care and health insurance reform, because it isn\u2019t even that.<\/p>\n

\"\"My only point is generic here, folks. I look at all this and I haven\u2019t the slightest desire — and it\u2019s not because I\u2019m getting lazy. It\u2019s because I don\u2019t waste time. And I haven\u2019t the slightest desire to get into the down and dirty of the latest CBO analysis and the 20 million that will lose coverage, the 20 million that will cost an arm and a leg, whatever it is, it\u2019s all just a distraction. “No, Rush, no, it\u2019s the process. It\u2019s the process we must go through if we\u2019re going to have new legislation.” Yeah, I know. What does that say about it? All the CBO is is a way for elected officials to pass the buck. “Well, the CBO says, the CBO says, the CBO says.”<\/p>\n

“Oh, you don\u2019t say, the CBO says.”<\/p>\n

“That\u2019s right, the CBO says it\u2019s gonna do this, and I don\u2019t want my name attached to that.”<\/p>\n

I watched, I can\u2019t remember his name, a very, very conservative member of the House. He was on CNN today. Malone — I think it was in Alabama. I should have made a note, but I didn\u2019t, 10 different things going on at the same time. Anyway, this guy was just standing up in total opposition to this Ryan-Trump bill claiming it\u2019s nothing but a brand-new welfare program. (paraphrasing) “We are creating a brand-new welfare entitlement. This is not health care. And I can\u2019t believe the Republican Party\u2019s putting its name to it.”<\/p>\n

And I recall that even I myself last week said that this looks like a new welfare entitlement because we\u2019re talking about covering people that can\u2019t do this or can\u2019t do that, we\u2019re creating new victims. And what are they? They\u2019re always victims of some unfairness intrinsic to the United States. But my common sense, intelligence guided by experience tells me it\u2019s not this complicated! “Well, we can\u2019t do this because of reconciliation, need 60 votes.” There\u2019s a lot of people that don\u2019t want 60 votes if you ask me.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s also a lot of people that don\u2019t want Trump to succeed, if you ask me. And I don\u2019t think that that is exclusive to parties. I think it\u2019s the entire whatever you want to call it, the ruling class, the Washington establishment, or what have you. I got some sound bites here to support all this. We got your phone calls coming up. But there\u2019s other stuff in the news too. I just wanted to lay out — you know, if you expect to hear down and dirty adding and subtracting and multiplication and division and analysis of these CBO numbers, go somewhere else, folks, \u2019cause I\u2019m not falling for the trick.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: You know something else that happens here, folks? And this is just human nature. I\u2019m sure this has occurred to you before. At some point in every piece of legislation the objective changes. And all that matters is, quote, unquote, passing the bill. “We gotta pass the bill. We gotta send it up to president. No matter what\u2019s in it, we gotta pass the bill.”<\/p>\n

Passing the bill becomes the measure of success. And so that\u2019s when the real dangerous horse trading begins. “Well, what do we need to pass this sucker?” And somebody says, “Well, you gotta take out this and you gotta give me what I want.” The deal-making starts and it doesn\u2019t take long before the entire reason the whole process began is forgotten. This is another aspect of bureaucracies. Just get it passed. We gotta be able to claim that we moved the legislation, we passed the bill.<\/p>\n

\"\"Back to the phones. Salt Lake City and Ron. Glad you waited, sir. How are you?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019m well. Thank you, Rush. Thanks for taking my call.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yes, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Congratulations on your golf game, by the way.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you very much.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Wish I could have been there. So I\u2019ll just get to my point real quickly. I was a strong, enthusiastic supporter of Trump because of the promises he made. And, of course, one of them being the repeal of Obamacare. But to me it seems like the question that we should be asking has not been asked. I agree with you in terms of the CBO report means nothing, but the real question that we should be asking is how many pages of Obamacare remain at the end of the day? Because I don\u2019t know what the number is. I\u2019ve read as high as 30,000, and as Pelosi said we need to pass the bill so we can understand what\u2019s in it. But if we still have tens of thousands of pages of bill as a result of the Republicans tweaking it, then we really haven\u2019t repealed it.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I think the actual number is between 2,200 and 2,500.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And even that makes it near record.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, even that. So how many of those pages are gonna remain?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right. Yeah, that\u2019s a good measuring stick. And of course why does it take so many pages? Who writes this stuff? Who are they? What is their objective when they write this? When you want to write a piece of legislation that nobody, by the way, can ever consciously comply with all of it — do you realize that? This is a law. It\u2019s not a list of suggestions.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s a bunch of people that aren\u2019t in the medical business, with a couple of exceptions, dictating the entire medical and health complex from hospitals to doctors to ambulances to insurance, a bunch of people that have never done it, never made a dime doing it, telling everybody else what they have to do, what they can\u2019t do, what they\u2019ll be penalized if they do do or don\u2019t do. And it takes 2,500. There is no way that any single, even the person that wrote it can remember everything that\u2019s in it to comply with it. So what is it, really?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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