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SENSENBRENNER: The demand was never pulled off the table, and in response to the president\u2019s call, you know, I agreed to tweak the deal, in that if the Senate would agree to my provisions that prevented terrorists from gaining the asylum system, we would take out the provision prohibiting driver\u2019s licenses for illegal aliens, but keeping the tough documentation standards in the intelligence bill in order to try to advance it. The Senate rejected any change in the asylum law, and once again, yesterday, they were shown to be wrong because there were 26 people that were indicted for gaming the asylum and driver\u2019s licenses law in order to document 1900 illegal immigrants from Indonesia.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Congressman, where do we stand on this now? This is obviously a dead issue during this session of Congress, is that true?<\/line> <\/line>SENSENBRENNER: The leadership would like to have more negotiations going on before we get back here on December the 6th. I am absolutely insistent that the driver\u2019s license provision stay in the bill. We need tough standards. We need to deny driver\u2019s licenses to illegal aliens, and I think the proof in the pudding on that is that the 19 September 11th hijackers —<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Yeah.<\/line> <\/line>SENSENBRENNER: — ended up getting 63 validly issued driver\u2019s licenses from several states.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: The story here also indicates that you and Congressman Duncan Hunter<\/a> were especially angered when you were called out individually by people on the Sunday talk shows that you dug in even harder. Is that true or is that misrepresented in this news story?<\/line> <\/line>SENSENBRENNER: Well, after the supporters of this bad deal trashed both Duncan Hunter and me on every Sunday morning talking heads shows — neither of us, by the way, were invited to defend ourselves — it\u2019s obvious that the positions have hardened. Neither Duncan nor I are going to give in on our provisions which we believe are extremely important to protect America and particularly to give our war fighters in combat the proper intelligence that they need. And we have been standing together on this issue. I think that we do need to reform our intelligence community. That\u2019s a given. But if the people who receive the intelligence, whether it\u2019s law enforcement or the war fighters in combat, do not have the laws and the procedures to be able to use that intelligence, the good intelligence isn\u2019t really going to help anybody much at all.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Now, are you also, in this comment, referring to the change in authority over directing and aiming satellites for combat missions?<\/line> <\/line>SENSENBRENNER: Absolutely. I agree that Duncan Hunter is right on that. The Pentagon should do that, rather than the national intelligence director, because the Pentagon knows what the war fighters in the field need. There is a law enforcement provision in that as well, because if an FBI special agent in charge gets information that somebody is plotting a terrorist attack within his jurisdiction, he shouldn\u2019t be able to have to try to figure out whether the NID\u2019s intelligence or the FBI director\u2019s intelligence is right. He ought to get the intelligence analyzed by somebody else and go out in the field and stop the terrorist from striking.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: We\u2019re talking with Congressman James Sensenbrenner from Wisconsin, if you just joined us. Congressman, how many of the 9\/11 commission intelligence recommendations are embodied in the bill that your opponents seek passage on?<\/line> <\/line>SENSENBRENNER: Practically all of them are, except how the intelligence is communicated by the people in the field who need to use them.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Well, what do you think about that, just as a concept? That this commission makes recommendations and there\u2019s this mad dash to implement all of them?<\/line> <\/line>SENSENBRENNER: Well, the commission isn\u2019t elected by anybody, and to become a committee chair, you\u2019ve got to be working with these issues for over 20 years in the Congress. The 9\/11 Commission made a couple of mistakes. First of all, we shouldn\u2019t publicize the total intelligence budget, so that the bad folks can figure out what\u2019s going on, and for a while they wanted to have the national intelligence director be in the executive office of the president, which means that that official would not be subject to confirmation and would not have to testify before Congress. They backtracked on that pretty quickly. So commissioners make mistakes, and I don\u2019t think this commission came down the mountain with stone tablets. We\u2019ve had hearings. We\u2019ve analyzed this, and as a matter of fact, the problems on aiming the satellites and giving the war fighters in the field the information came about as a result of a hearing that General Myers<\/a>, the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff testified before in front of Mr. Hunter\u2019s committee.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, that leads me to another question on this, and this is actually a process question, and process and political question, and it doesn\u2019t really relate to what you have said specifically here, but I\u2019d like your thoughts on it, if you want to weigh in. Throughout this second term of the president\u2019s — he hasn\u2019t been inaugurated yet but he\u2019s been appointing new cabinet members and the opponents of the public keep talking about, “Why, he\u2019s appointing people that agree with him right down the line. There won\u2019t be any debate in the CIA! There won\u2019t be any debate in the State Department. This is all horrible!” Yet they send this 9\/11 commission recommendation up there and they expect you guys to rubber stamp it with no debate. Now, it seems to me that there\u2019s a huge contradiction here, that you are debating this, that you\u2019re not rubber stamping it. It\u2019s what you\u2019re supposed to do.<\/line> <\/line> SENSENBRENNER: Rush, you\u2019re right and if we had no hearings and rubber stamped it, we\u2019d be criticized for that. Congress\u2019 job is to deliberate, and I think that those of us who have been working with issues like this for a very, very long time at least have some type of an institutional perspective and memory so that we can make a good product better. I think that if we pass the bill that the Senate demanded, we\u2019d be fumbling the ball on the 10 yard line. It\u2019s important to do it right. It\u2019s important to do it completely, and unless we change the issues of how intelligence is used that Mr. Hunter has been complaining about, and deal with the immigration and identification questions so that our law enforcement can identify potential terrorists and have the immigration department get them out of the country if they pose a threat to us, we can have the best intelligence in the world and it isn\u2019t going to make us any safer. The last 10 yards are always the toughest, and Mr. Hunter and I are absolutely determined that we\u2019re going to plow through the last 10 yards and get a good bill for America. What we\u2019re being criticized for stopping is not because it\u2019s incomplete.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: You just inspired two more questions. You bring up immigration as a “security issue.” How does what you\u2019re debating in Congress square with what the president\u2019s desires are on immigration? It\u2019s not amnesty but the three-year worker period matching up immigrants with workers and if they\u2019re legit, they get a temporary card for three years? How does that mix in with what you\u2019re trying to do here?<\/line> <\/line>SENSENBRENNER: Well, it doesn\u2019t directly mix in, but in my opinion, no immigration reform law will be effective unless there is adequate enforcement, because if there\u2019s not adequate enforcement, people are going to continue to hire illegal aliens and pay them in cash and not take out the withholding or pay them the minimum wage, which means they can get an illegal alien worker for about half the price of one who\u2019s got these temporary green cards. But the lynchpin on enforcement is proper identification, and we all use driver\u2019s licenses as identification, whether it\u2019s to get on airplanes or get into courthouses and things like that, and until we tighten up the driver\u2019s license provisions, we\u2019re not going to have the enforcement that\u2019s necessary to make any kind of immigration reform work. I\u2019m against amnesty, and I have always voted that way, but I\u2019ve come to the conclusion that if we continue having the present system, we\u2019re just going to have millions more illegals come across the border because they know they can get jobs because neither their employers nor they will get caught and have to pay a penalty.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Another process question before we have to let you go, and that is: The battle between the Senate and the House is legion. It\u2019s nothing new. But it seems there\u2019s a battle between Republicans in the Senate and Republicans in the House. Many had hoped that the results of the election would force some sort of change in this acrimony. Do you see that as a possibility?<\/line> <\/line>SENSENBRENNER: Well, what\u2019s happened in the last 72 hours certainly hasn\u2019t helped. You know, one of the House members\u2019 criticism of the Senate is that the Senate likes to legislate based upon what looks good on a bumper sticker or a sound bite, and it\u2019s up to those of us in the House to make sure that the devil is in the details and the details work. And I think that this goes to the crux of the dispute that we\u2019re having with the Senate on how intelligence is used, and on the driver\u2019s license and immigration provisions. We in the House want to make this work, and we know that to make this work properly, as our constituents expect us to, is to ensure that the intelligence is properly utilized, and that we will be able to stop people getting fake driver\u2019s licenses and gaming the asylum system to completely flout our laws and in some instances plot and execute terrorist attacks.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: So the Senate just wants to be able to say they got something done; you all in the House have to make sure it works.<\/line> <\/line>SENSENBRENNER: Yeah, and you\u2019ll remember that a year and a half ago, the Senate criticized me on the amber alert bill because I wanted to put law enforcement provisions in —<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Yeah.<\/line> <\/line>SENSENBRENNER: – -and I stood my ground, despite a lot of criticism, stared them down, and now we\u2019ve had people who are being sent to jail for being involved in sex tourism, and people who are being sent to jail because they put deliberately misleading domain names on to lure children in to looking at pornographic websites. Without me standing firm on that, that wouldn\u2019t be the law and these people would continue to prey on children. So standing up to the Senate, in many instances, results in better laws and that\u2019s what Mr. Hunter and I are trying to do in this area.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Congressman James Sensenbrenner from Wisconsin. Before you go, you mentioned that you\u2019ve got the ball down to the 10 yard line. You got any running backs for the Packers<\/a> you can pull out of your hat for them?<\/line> <\/line>SENSENBRENNER: Well, they all seem to be kind of hurting, but remember, Rush, the Packers have now won five straight. The last two with a field goal as the clock was running out but that counts just as much of a W as the 40-point win.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Ever so true. Well, Congressman, thanks for calling —<\/line> <\/line>SENSENBRENNER: Thanks, Rush.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: — and straightening this out. We admire you here very much at the EIB Network. That\u2019s Congressman James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin.<\/line>END TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n

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