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RUSH: Good.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Thank you for taking my call. I just wanted to express one point of view in terms of the gay marriage issue. In the history of our country, we\u2019ve never had a minority group that has had to face public acceptance of them through voting. We didn\u2019t have to have a vote to determine whether or not any individual in this country has equal rights or equal protection under the Constitution. <\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Are you sure you want to say that? We had a Civil War in this country, and there have been civil rights acts, votes, all kinds of things.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Perhaps.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: There was a time when black people in this country were said to be three-fifths human.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Correct. Correct. But if that had been put to a vote in the electorate as to whether or not they should receive equal rights, that was never done. And fortunately it wasn\u2019t done. It was a matter of, you know, supporting the Constitution that every man is created equal under the Constitution. It doesn\u2019t delineate race, it doesn\u2019t delineate anything. And, you know, I just think, you know, in terms of the gay marriage issue, I mean is it a matter that the sun isn\u2019t going to rise tomorrow because gays are allowed to marry? Gays are in our society, they have contributed to our society, and they\u2019re going to continue to do that. What is the issue of granting equal protection under the law to these individuals?<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: I don\u2019t think that anybody is opposed to doing that. I think that the issue is best dealt with in that regard with civil unions.<\/line><\/p>\n

CALLER: But then we\u2019re talking semantics. <\/line> <\/line>RUSH: No, we\u2019re not, though. You know, this is where this gets I think really important. We\u2019re not talking semantics. There is an institution, hear me out on this, and you can respond here in just a second, there\u2019s an institution called marriage, and it has evolved over the course of thousands and thousands and thousands of years, it has a specific definition. Marriage is a union between a man and a woman, it\u2019s like two plus two equals four. Two plus two does not equal five just because somebody wants it to. Two plus two doesn\u2019t equal three just because somebody wants it to. Two plus two equals four. Marriage is a man and a woman. <\/line> <\/line>If we\u2019re going to come along and say that marriage can be anything that two people who want to get together say it\u2019s going to be, then marriage can be between people of the same sex, could be between three people, could be between four people, where does this stuff stop? And because of this effort that is being made to redefine or I would say it\u2019s not even a matter of redefining it, I think the effort is to destroy it, since the effort is being made to destroy it, there are people who believe in the institution and who accept the definition, we\u2019re not talking about a right, and we\u2019re not talking about – at most we\u2019re talking about a privilege, but we\u2019re not talking about a right. <\/line>What we\u2019re talking about is the definition, a specific legal definition of an institution. And in order for people who do not qualify based on the definition to seek entry or admittance to this institution the institution must be weakened, and this is what people oppose. And the proof here is what\u2019s happening in San Francisco where the people who are applying are having to change the forms. There is not bride and groom, there are no bride and groom, there are no husband and wife, applicant one, applicant two, spouse one, spouse two, and the people in California are saying they\u2019re changing the forms, we\u2019re not going to allow this, these are not sanctioned. It all has to do with the maintenance of traditional standards, but there\u2019s nobody that, you know, civil unions are going to allow you the things that you think marriage has denied you because you\u2019re not allowed to participate in it.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: My feeling, Rush, is that the institution of a marriage is being held up to this pure and wonderful thing. It has already been undermined as Mayor Daley pointed out with divorce. 65% of marriages in this country end up in divorce.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: So why would you want to enter into one if it\u2019s that rotten an institution?<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: I want equal rights in being as miserable.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Wait a minute, now we\u2019re getting into semantics. You can\u2019t say that the institution is failing and then claim to want to be a part of it, you can\u2019t claim the institution is worthless and then want to be a part of it. To be consistent you should say marriage is stupid, we ought to get rid of it, it isn\u2019t working, but no, you\u2019re going to tell me that marriage – the divorce rate is not 65%, by the way, either – and now you want to be a part of it. I don\u2019t understand what\u2019s so hard to understand. Marriage is a specific thing. It was not created to deny anybody anything. It evolved to establish a particular union. There\u2019s nothing discriminatory about it nor in its intentions was there anything discriminatory about it. Now all of a sudden there are people who think they\u2019re being denied rights and access and so forth, not because of what marriage is all about but because of what government has done to marriage in turning it into a welfare recipient receptacle. Hello?<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: I still have to say that the concept of the institution of marriage is not going to be changed by granting gay couples the same right to marry if they.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: But it will.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Why? How will it affect your marriage?<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Uh, it won\u2019t. You know, that\u2019s another one of these trick questions that I as a veteran host am not going to fall for. I didn\u2019t say this is about my marriage. This is about an institution, this is about a tradition. I mean you have forced me to go to this next step so I\u2019m going to take it. There\u2019s a reason that marriage has evolved to what it is, there\u2019s a reason marriage started out and evolved to what it is. The vast number of marriages take place to legitimize children, to provide a family tree, to provide lineage, to provide a genealogical identity. The purpose of marriage is the raising, the procreation of the race, and raising children. It has been found to be the best way to do it. The proof of the fact that it is, is the divorce rate. We cite the divorce rate and we do so in terms of its damage to children. We cite the divorce rate and we cite the out of wedlock birth rate as evidence to suggest that children who grow up without a mother and father in the home don\u2019t do as well as children who do. The nuclear family is the best way to do things. <\/line>It is not some authority which has said this to deny people who can\u2019t participate certain opportunities. It has evolved over the course of years and years, thousands and thousands of years of human civilization – civilization. It is the civilized way of creating families, creating human beings, raising them to be responsible people. If it weren\u2019t, we wouldn\u2019t care about the divorce rate. If it weren\u2019t, we wouldn\u2019t care about the illegitimacy rate. There wouldn\u2019t be such thing as illegitimacy, there wouldn\u2019t be people concerned about it. <\/line>One of the groups that\u2019s most opposed to this, black Americans who are devout churchgoers know how important it is because it is in their community that the illegitimacy rate is the highest. It\u2019s in the 70%. It is tearing the black community apart, and some people there know it. Now, we can argue about why the illegitimacy rate is what it is, but that\u2019s not the point here. Government is the reason for it. White liberals are the reason for it but I don\u2019t want to go there beyond what I\u2019ve already said. This is simply a fact of time, it is a fact of life. Nobody who got married did so going nah-nah-nah-nah-nah, I can do this and you can\u2019t. They got married because they were in love and they wanted to have a family. Not every married couple does have children, some of them have to adopt, some of them don\u2019t want them, some get married for other reasons, but the vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people know that the marriage and the creation of a family is the best way to raise children.<\/line><\/p>\n

Now, I don\u2019t mean to offend you with this. It is what it is. This is the whole point, it is what it is. What if a group of people decided that in San Francisco the homeless problem is so bad that everybody needed to be given, who wanted one, a permit for a gun? The law is the law, says you can\u2019t do that, oh, we got a problem, and we do it just to flout the law. What if the people who said we want guns but there\u2019s too many gun control laws, had a mayor that said, I\u2019m going to have to take care of it for you, come down to my office, I\u2019ll give you a license, go get a gun. What would the reaction be? <\/line> <\/line>Take anything, somebody wants heroin, mayor says fine, you want heroin, I\u2019m going to make it legal for you. I think it ought to be people are being denied the right to do and have heroin. There\u2019s a law, marriage is what it is. It\u2019s not really complicated. What\u2019s happening here is that a movement of people can only grain ground by creating sympathy on the basis that they are being denied something, civil rights in this case. <\/line>Now, I have to tell you, Ron, that I think it\u2019s insulting to people who have a heritage of slavery to compare the homosexual experience in America to that. I don\u2019t think there\u2019s any basis for that comparison, and it trivializes what slavery and the people who lived through it and have it as part of their heritage, trivializes what they\u2019ve experienced and gone through and what their family members have gone through. It\u2019s an unfortunate, cheap attempt to piggyback on something and to co-opt life experiences of others, claim that you\u2019ve experienced them yourselves so that you can advance a cause.<\/line> <\/line>The real question is here, what does this matter? What\u2019s the big deal? If civil unions will get you everything a marriage will, then who needs marriage? What\u2019s the big deal? It doesn\u2019t make sense to me. I keep hearing that we got to have marriage rights so we can get visitation to hospitals, so we can have whatever else goes along. Civil unions will accomplish that. If civil unions will accomplish it and people are still not happy, then what\u2019s really going on here and I think the real answer to that question is, there\u2019s a desire to undermine and weaken institutions because of some anger and rage that exists in certain communities. Over what, I couldn\u2019t tell you, but I know it when I see it.<\/line>COMMERCIAL BREAK<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: About this business of no votes. We had the Civil War, we had the Supreme Court of this country affirm slavery. Dred Scott decision. Supreme Court justice Roger Taney. We had to fix that. It\u2019s a cultural move, ladies and gentlemen. Here\u2019s Karen, Wheaton, Illinois, nice to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Thank you, Rush. I appreciate your taking my call. I really wanted to disagree with your previous caller who was stating that he and other homosexuals do not have equal access to marriage. I\u2019m saying that they do have equal access, if they choose to marry a woman, they have exactly the same access that I do and that anyone else does in this country. <\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Well, what you mean is they can marry someone of the opposite sex.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: They can marry someone of the opposite sex and they have equal access to it. It is not a discrimination issue. It is not that they\u2019re being denied their rights. It\u2019s that they want new rights, they want separate rights, they want special rights.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Uh, that\u2019s one way of looking at it. I still think, maybe I\u2019m just na?ve, and I\u2019m coming to the conclusion that even as I age and get closer and closer to that stage of life where we contract serious illness and die, that I\u2019m na?ve. Marriage is marriage. It is a specific thing. You know, it\u2019s like greed is greed. We\u2019re not going to change the definition of greed and say it\u2019s altruism, just because some people don\u2019t like it. Greed is greed. And I\u2019m not acquainting the two, but marriage is marriage. It is what it is. Well, maybe I\u2019m na?ve. What I mean is maybe I\u2019m na?ve in trying to explain this to people. I\u2019m na?ve for believing that that\u2019s the way it is, huh? Well, I tell you what, there may be people that want that, whatever they want to be they\u2019re going to be, whatever they want to call themselves they\u2019re going to call themselves and they can do it, but it doesn\u2019t make it justified, doesn\u2019t make it right if it isn\u2019t right, if it isn\u2019t accurate. You know, marriage is what it is.<\/line><\/p>\n

Look, we play around with this game, two plus two equals five, it\u2019s called outcome-based education and there was a time in the American school system, and it may still be going on. We were calling attention to it back in the eighties, early, mid-nineties. Two plus two is five. If the kid was too stupid to figure out it was two plus two is four. We weren\u2019t going to humiliate the kid and say okay, little Johnny, if you do think two plus two is five, then it is for now. We actually did that. We may still be doing it. But it isn\u2019t. Two plus two is four. You wonder why we need Head Start programs still. We\u2019re not teaching things! <\/line> <\/line>You know, there are absolutes. You know what this is really all about? There are two groups of people in this country. Well, there\u2019s more than that, but there\u2019s a group of people that sees absolutes. Something\u2019s right, something\u2019s wrong. Something is, something isn\u2019t. And then there\u2019s a group of people who are on the wrong side of right and wrong and on the “isn\u2019t” side of is and isn\u2019t, and don\u2019t like it. And so they profess to see gray areas and nuances. Well, no, it\u2019s too simple-minded to say that something is just right or something is just wrong. We must look deeper. No, we don\u2019t. We know what it is, we know right and wrong. Everybody has a little voice inside their heads, and when they\u2019re doing something wrong, they know it. Many of us don\u2019t listen to the little voice, but it\u2019s there. We know right and wrong. But because some of us don\u2019t have whatever it is that makes it possible to adhere to the right thing all the time, we want to excuse ourselves by saying what we\u2019re doing is wrong isn\u2019t wrong. In fact it\u2019s right! In fact what we\u2019re doing wrong is even good, that\u2019s how we\u2019ll fix it. And so, by the way, that Constitution, it says that this is wrong, well, that\u2019s not what the founders- we\u2019ve got to have a bending and moving and flexible, shaping Constitution so it can accommodate all of those who are on the wrong side of write and wrong or on the “isn\u2019t” side of is and isn\u2019t. And that\u2019s what\u2019s really going on here. Those are our jets now, Ron! It\u2019s the best way to encapsulate it.<\/line>END TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n

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