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RUSH:  Back in 2004, October 11th, the first instance we can find — it probably predates this — but 2004, still 12 years ago, ladies and gentlemen, and this is what I said back then.<\/p>\n

RUSH ARCHIVE:  I think the objective of certain people who engage in polling is all about an attempt to shape people\u2019s minds, is an attempt to make up their minds.  Polls have not become just a snapshot.  You\u2019ve got these polls being used to influence the media, which has admitted its chosen choice, or its chosen candidate, which is Kerry, tries to position the polls and the reporting of the polls.  I couldn\u2019t begin to tell you what\u2019s gonna happen because of the polls.  It seems like there\u2019s a new one every day.  Well, there is a new one every day \u2019cause these are tracking polls, they get updated.  And I know people live and die by \u2019em on both sides.  I can\u2019t tell you how this is gonna turn out.  Really can\u2019t.  The country\u2019s clearly chosen sides.  We got media advocating its own candidate and then the New Media, us, advocating ours.  It\u2019s a new ball game out there, and it\u2019s just too many variables to be able to rely on any single source of information.<\/p>\n

RUSH:  Twelve years ago.  It\u2019s the same thing we\u2019re discussing here.  Bush ended up winning that election although I don\u2019t think it ever had Kerry up 10 or 11. But the polls did have John Kerry winning the election in 2004, and the exit polls indicated Kerry had won the election.  None of it turned out to be true.  And there\u2019s a new email, a John Podesta email exposing the Democrat playbook for rigging polls through oversamples. <\/line><\/p>\n

Many people have written about this.  I have one here from ZeroHedge.com<\/a>.  For all of you out there who still are not convinced the polls are rigged, we present to you the following Podesta email leaked earlier today — this is over the weekend — that conveniently spells out in startling detail exactly how to rig the polls. <\/p>\n

“The email starts out with a request for recommendations on ‘oversamples for polling\u2019 in order to ‘maximize what we get out of our media polling.\u2019 … ‘I also want to get your Atlas folks to recommend oversamples for our polling before we start in February. By market, regions, etc. I want to get this all compiled into one set of recommendations so we can maximize what we get out of our media polling.'”<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: This is a Reuters story on Friday.  “Trump Gains On Clinton, Poll Shows ‘Rigged\u2019 Message Resonates <\/a>— Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump gained on his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton among American voters this week,” meaning last week “cutting her lead nearly in half, according to Reuters\/Ipsos polling released on Friday. The polling data showed Trump\u2019s argument that the Nov. 8 election is ‘rigged\u2019 against him has resonated with members of his party.”<\/p>\n

They go on to talk about 70% of Republicans believe that the system is rigged and that elections can be rigged.  Reuters extrapolates from that to mean that it\u2019s working, that Trump\u2019s message is causing the polls to tighten.  Okay, so we have that, that\u2019s from Friday.  There hasn\u2019t been anything over the weekend change arguably other than an ABC poll that\u2019s out, and it\u2019s over the top double-digit lead for Hillary Clinton, and it\u2019s based on phenomenal disapproval of Trump. <\/p>\n

<\/a>So just hang on before we get to that.  I just wanted to get this Reuters confusion wrapped up.  The mistake I made when I got this right before the program, I thought it happened just now.  I thought it was news today.  It was news from Friday, wasn\u2019t clearly marked.  So I apologize for the confusion, but now we\u2019ve got it straightened out. <\/p>\n

Now, back to the Podesta emails that have been discovered, written about here by Zero Hedge.  This guy Tyler Durden, it\u2019s a pseudonym, I don\u2019t know who he really is, but the website is Zero Hedge, and he writes, “Now, for all of you out there who still aren\u2019t convinced that the polls are ‘adjusted\u2019, we present to you the following Podesta email, leaked earlier today,” and this is yesterday.  The story\u2019s from Sunday.  “The Podesta email leaked earlier today that conveniently spells out, in detail, exactly how to ‘manufacture\u2019 the desired data. The email starts out with a request for recommendations on ‘oversamples for polling\u2019 in order to ‘maximize what we get out of our media polling.'”<\/p>\n

So here\u2019s verbatim from the Podesta email.  This is going to Clinton campaign staffers and others who are associated with the Hillary-for-president effort.  “I also want to get your Atlas folks to recommend oversamples for our polling before we start in February. By market, regions, etc. I want to get this all compiled into one set of recommendations so we can maximize what we get out of our media polling.”<\/p>\n

Now, I infer from this that we\u2019re not talking about their internal polls.  They are attempting here to set out guidelines that they want the media to follow in order to procure and produce certain sets of data.  The email includes, this Podesta email “includes a handy, 37-page guide with the following poll-rigging recommendations.  <\/p>\n

In Arizona, over sampling of Hispanics and Native Americans is highly recommended: Research, microtargeting & polling projects<\/emphasize><\/p>\n

–  Over-sample Hispanics<\/emphasize><\/p>\n

–  Use Spanish language interviewing. (Monolingual Spanish-speaking voters are among the lowest turnout Democratic targets)<\/emphasize><\/p>\n

–  Over-sample the Native American population<\/emphasize><\/p>\n

“For Florida, the report recommends ‘consistently monitoring\u2019 samples to makes sure they\u2019re ‘not too old\u2019 and ‘has enough African American and Hispanic voters.\u2019  Meanwhile, ‘independent\u2019 voters in Tampa and Orlando are apparently more dem friendly so the report suggests filling up independent quotas in those cities first.”<\/p>\n

This whole email, if I\u2019m understanding this, is actually a manual for pollsters on how to produce the results Podesta wants.  Now, I have to tell you, folks.  Even if I were to believe that the polls are rigged — and like I\u2019m telling you, I don\u2019t know, folks.  I wish I could tell you.  I don\u2019t know!  People, like I say, come up to me everywhere, “Rush, how can this be?  I mean, Hillary doesn\u2019t draw crowds.  Obama\u2019s crowds are not that big, and wherever Trump goes, it\u2019s phenomenal. And the energy between the two sets of supporters is not even comparable.”<\/line><\/p>\n

I don\u2019t know.  The conventional wisdom is that you cannot infer from crowds votes.  You cannot assume they\u2019re all gonna vote.  You can\u2019t assume they\u2019re all gonna vote for Trump.  You can\u2019t assume that they\u2019re all there because they want to vote for Trump.  You can\u2019t assume anything.  There\u2019s nothing scientific about looking at a big crowd at any event. <\/p>\n

The analogy I\u2019ve given, look at the crowd at a football game.  Let\u2019s say you got 75,000 people in a stadium.  You don\u2019t know what they think about what they\u2019re watching.  Yeah, but is that a good analogy?  You got two teams playing at the same time in that venue.  Trump and Hillary are not on the same stage at these rallies.  These are Trump supporters obviously showing up and they are filled with energy. <\/p>\n

And even with these guidelines and suggestions from Podesta on how to rig the polls, what we have to believe is that all of the people that run these polls, ABC\/Washington Post, NBC\/Wall Street Journal, CBS\/New York Times, Monmouth College, you name it, every one of these polls waits for guidelines on who to sample from the Hillary Clinton campaign. <\/p>\n

And I understand many of you think, “What\u2019s so strange about that, Rush?  We\u2019re learning that reporters go to dinner with Podesta and we\u2019re learning that reporters clear their stories with Podesta,” all of which is true. <\/p>\n

And, by the way, nothing in this WikiLeaks dump has ever been denied, folks.  The only thing the Democrats say is you can\u2019t trust it because the Russians produced it and that it\u2019s illegal.  And, by the way, there\u2019s conflicting data now that the Russians have nothing to do with this.  Julian Assange apparently has told somebody that knows him well that the Russians have nothing to do with the data that he is releasing and how he got it.  The Russians have nothing to do with it. <\/p>\n

And people have asked, “How come there isn\u2019t stuff on Trump?  Why isn\u2019t WikiLeaks releasing stuff on Trump and the Republicans.”  And Assange\u2019s answer, \u2019cause nobody sent us any.  WikiLeaks is a publisher.  They sit there and they mind their own business and they wait for people to send them dirt, is what happens. <\/line><\/p>\n

Now, in some cases I imagine Assange will get on the phone and try to cajole and make deals with people he knows have information that\u2019s whistleblower and leak oriented, but for the most part WikiLeaks is just sitting there waiting for somebody to send them something.  They\u2019re waiting for somebody to hack something and then send them the results.  And if they don\u2019t have anything on Trump and the Republicans it\u2019s because nobody has gone through the trouble to hack \u2019em and send whatever they\u2019ve got over to Assange. <\/p>\n

Now, you would think the Democrats would be trying to hack Trump and the Republicans, and you would think that the Democrats would want to get it out there. But do the Democrats need WikiLeaks?  They don\u2019t.  They\u2019ve got their own Drive-By Media.  If Podesta and the gang hacked, say, Trump computers or Republican National Committee computers, they don\u2019t need to go to WikiLeaks.  They just need to call the New York Times.  They just need to call ABC News, the Washington Post, you name it. <\/p>\n

Anyway, we are being led here to believe, and this guy at Zero Hedge obviously thinks that really what it comes down to is oversampling Democrats.  You just vastly oversample Democrats on the basis that Democrat turnout is gonna dwarf Republican turnout.  I mean, that\u2019s the reason why you would do it if you\u2019re a scientific pollster.<\/p>\n

So if you get a sample 37% Democrat, 27% Republican, 31% Independent, well, what\u2019s that gonna produce?  Obviously it\u2019s gonna produce results largely unfavorable to Trump. If only 27% of your sample is Republican, and the other 70 some odd is Democrat and independent?  What do you think you\u2019re gonna get?  And this is the point that people who believe this story are making here. <\/p>\nIf you look at the polls that we\u2019re talking about, voila, they are all magically oversampled with Democrats, I mean, unrealistically sampled with Democrats.  But they carry with them the imprimatur of science.  <\/line>These polls have the respectability and the credibility of being scientific and they\u2019ve enjoyed this up to now so that whatever they say is unquestioned much like the consensus of scientists on climate change. <\/line>\n

Here we have a consensus of scientists on polling data, but if it\u2019s garbage in, then you\u2019re gonna get garbage out.  I wish that I could sit here and tell you that I, without question, think the polls are rigged.  I have thought so in previous elections.  In 2000 I remember was I being interviewed on Fox News by Paula Zahn, and it was a week or two before the presidential election, and the polling data at the time had Algore up three or four points<\/a>.  And I remember telling Paula Zahn, I don\u2019t believe it. It just doesn\u2019t compute.  It doesn\u2019t makes sense. <\/p>\n

I didn\u2019t think there was that much love associated with the Clinton administration, that Gore was kind of, you know, dryball.  Bush had raced through the Republican primaries, he had raced through fundraising, come out of nowhere and shocked everybody, if you recall, much like Trump has.  In fact, there\u2019s a guy we\u2019ll get to here later in the Stack<\/a>, there\u2019s a guy who has predicted the last five presidential election winners, and he\u2019s predicting Trump will win, and his reason is not what\u2019s happening now. <\/p>\n

His formula relies totally on what happened during primaries, and this guy essentially says that Trump just steamrollered everybody in the primaries. He would have steamrollered Hillary in the primaries. He would have steamrollered Crazy Bernie.  And on that basis he thinks not enough has significantly changed that Trump\u2019s gonna win this, and he\u2019s got the last five right.  I don\u2019t know, folks, like I say. <\/p>\n

Anyway, it turned out in 2000, to close that loop, that Bush finally did change those polls.  They tightened as we got closer to the election.  I was on that show two weeks out, and then over the weekend we got the Bush DUI story that was released, and it almost lost Bush the election, so they told us.  Bush was cruising in the polling data to a two- or three-point win, and the DUI story was released, and it rocked the Bush campaign.  Apparently it was true and Bush had never talked about it so they were scrambling. I think it was the weekend prior.  Might have been five or six days prior.  I\u2019m not sure which.  <\/a>Anyway, Bush ended up winning.  It was close as a gnat\u2019s eyelash and the Florida recount aftermath. <\/p>\n

And then in 2012, honest to God, folks, I thought Romney was gonna win by five or six.  There weren\u2019t any polls that said that.  I thought they were all using an incorrect turnout sample.  The way I was looking at it was the 2010 midterms in which the Republicans won landslides.  It was the Tea Party.  The Democrats lost 700 seats all told nationwide in the 2010 midterms.  And I said, “You know what?  They\u2019re not using that turnout in the 2012 presidential polls.”  Turns out they never do. <\/p>\n

They always use turnout from the previous presidential election, which was 2008, and then they base the 2012 turnout on that and whether it\u2019ll be replicated by Obama or not. And it turned on I was wrong.  When I thought the polls were wrong and that Romney was gonna win by five or six Obama won by 3.8.  So I\u2019m not comfortable here assuring you one way or the other, but there\u2019s clear evidence here that the Democrats have seen to it that the polls in this presidential cycle are oversampling Democrats, and there\u2019s clear evidence the pollsters have done that as well.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: So we\u2019ve got the polling data, we\u2019ve got the Podesta emails, we have Podesta emails advocating oversampling Democrats and Hispanics and Latinos and Native Americans, polling units doing this. In fact, we have here an ABC poll.  This is an ABC News\/Washington Post poll<\/a>.<\/p>\n

“Hillary Clinton has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the inaugural ABC News 2016 election tracking poll,” This is gonna be their daily poll. “Their inaugural ABC News 2016 election tracking poll boosted by broad disapproval of Donald Trump on two controversial issues: His treatment of women and his reluctance to endorse the election\u2019s legitimacy.<\/p>\n

“Likely voters by a vast 69-24 percent disapprove of Trump\u2019s response to questions about his treatment of women. … All told, Clinton leads Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, 50 to 38 percent, in the national survey, her highest support and his lowest to date in ABC News and ABC News\/Washington Post polls. Gary Johnson has 5 percent support, Jill Stein 2 percent.”<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s go to Pat Caddell talking about this.  This is last night on Fox News, Harris Faulkner speaking with Pat Caddell.  She says, “You are an expert in polling, so tell me about them.”<\/p>\n

CADDELL:  The polls are everywhere.  The Washington Post poll last week was four points.  If you believe that the race changed eight more points in her direction this last week, then I don\u2019t know what event you\u2019re looking at. You have three tracking polls, not only the daily tracking polls, not only Investors Daily, which was the best for several cycles, you also have Rasmussen and the LA Times, all of those show the race Trump ahead by a point or even.  The runoff polling may have problems.  The Washington Post poll, for example, had a nine-point Democratic Party edge.  Any poll with a nine-point party edge for the Democrats ought to be thrown out.  I\u2019ve never seen the polls in such contradictory numbers.<\/p>\n

RUSH:  Right.  Nine point edge.  That\u2019s the oversampling he\u2019s talking about.  He\u2019s never seen it like this, thinks the poll needs to be thrown out.  Pat Caddell worked for Jimmy Carter.  Couldn\u2019t take it anymore, Carter, couldn\u2019t take what was happening in the Democrat Party years ago. He\u2019s a polling expert, that\u2019s what he did for Carter. <\/line><\/p>\n

Now, on this poll of Reuters which says that Trump is gaining on Clinton, polls show “rigged” message resonates, I often wondered, when here came these reports about Trump and the women, like the Access Hollywood tape, when that first happened my instinct was that at some point the American people are gonna grow wise to all this and they\u2019re gonna start resenting this obvious October Surprise type procedure every four years designed to do nothing but manipulate them.<\/p>\n

And I wonder at what point will people grow wise and stop being affected by it. I don\u2019t know if we\u2019re seeing that here in the Reuters poll where “rigged” message is resonating with people.  We\u2019ll just have to play it out.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH:  Okay, now, the Investor\u2019s Business Daily poll is out today.  Trump\u2019s up two.  That is the poll that got it exactly right in 2012.  Their sample is interesting.  The ABC sample is just completely out of whack.  <\/p>\n<\/section>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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