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RUSH: Jack Kelly in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, “Unions on the Ropes — Public employees are fighting back, but they seem almost sure to lose.” Do you have that opinion? You don\u2019t, Snerdley? Yeah, I think a lot of people want that to be the case, “but they seem almost sure to lose”? It\u2019s just like the smart money in the NFL work stoppage. The players are gonna lose at the end of the day. It could be big. You know, that NFL situation, the way the lawyers are running that on the players side — just as a brief aside here — if you\u2019re not following it \u2019cause it bores you, you ought to know that the union\u2019s lawyers, the player\u2019s lawyers are actually advocating to blow up the whole system, no more draft, every college player is a free agent, high school player, free agent, the league can recruit players from wherever they want and for whatever, there would be no salary cap, no minimum, no nothing. If the league tells a punter you\u2019re gonna make ten grand a year, that\u2019s what you make, or US minimum wage, that\u2019s what you make. <\/p>\n

Some of the players I\u2019m convinced don\u2019t even really know what their own lawyers are actually pushing for. But the smart money there in the NFL strike is, at the end of the day, the owners are gonna win. They\u2019ve got the money to hold out and go to the mat for what they want much easier and longer than the players can. And the smart money is also saying the same thing about public unions. And again it\u2019s predicated on what\u2019s real. The money to sustain them as they\u2019ve always existed just isn\u2019t there. States cannot print money. You know, this is the one thing that we sit here and we look at the Democrat Party union alignment as this all powerful monolith that nothing can be done to stop. But what is it that props it up? What is it that gives it power? It\u2019s money, and there isn\u2019t any. And states can\u2019t just borrow. They can\u2019t print like the federal government. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<\/p>\n RUSH: Jack Kelly has this story, “Public employees are fighting back but they seem almost sure to lose.” They are losing! They are losing. Now, they happen to be making a lot of noise and scaring people and causing a lot of public unrest. <\/p>\n<\/p>\n Some of the highlight\u2019s of Mr. Kelly\u2019s piece: “To see how grim is the outlook for public employee unions, let\u2019s go to Detroit, where Mayor Dave Bing proposed Tuesday a budget which would cut contributions to public employee health plans by 20 percent and would skip a payment to city pension funds,” and this is labor union capital USA. Dave Bing said, “If we do nothing, by 2015 fringe benefits are on pace to consume half of our entire general fund revenue.” Fringe benefits. Benefits. Man, that\u2019s a word that\u2019s starting to really grate on me, too. Benefits. For what? What are you doing to deserve your benefits? I also realize this. There\u2019s gonna be hell to pay when this spigot stops. We\u2019re seeing it now. We\u2019re seeing it now in Europe, seeing it in Greece, seeing it in Spain, Portugal up next. These are all products of liberal socialist utopian promises, and now their money is running out. And they don\u2019t know how to work. They don\u2019t know how to go get a job. Their version of work is not work. Their version of work is a job, working for the government, and their primary interest is vacation and sick days and benefits. The work they do is for the most part the last part of the equation that they\u2019re interested in.<\/p>\n

But when there\u2019s no money it\u2019s gonna affect a lot of people. There are a lot of people. I\u2019m not talking about the welfare rolls here. I\u2019m talking about union people, state, city, township, whatever governments that are gonna have to start cutting back, laying off, reducing retirement packages, there\u2019s gonna be hell to pay when the money\u2019s not there. (interruption) Well, reacting to diminished services is another part of the equation. But that\u2019s gonna happen later on down the line. Here\u2019s the better question. This is gonna be the real test. Let\u2019s say that all this stuff actually happens. Let\u2019s say every state goes the route of Wisconsin. Let\u2019s say California does it. Let\u2019s say that Michigan does it, and let\u2019s say that the public sector unions all-in have to get by on 40 to 50% less than they\u2019re used to now. Who, or better yet, can the private sector make that up? Well, no, it can\u2019t right away. (interruption) No, Snerdley, where can they go to get work that will pay them enough to make up for what they\u2019re going to lose? Will there be private sector jobs for these people to go get since Obama\u2019s destroying that, too? <\/p>\n

Will there be enough private sector jobs for public sector workers to go get as second or third jobs to make up for what they\u2019re going to lose when the state and cities can\u2019t pay \u2019em what they\u2019re being paid? And if the private sector doesn\u2019t have the jobs, that\u2019s when the hell\u2019s gonna start. That\u2019s when it\u2019s gonna get dicey, if you ask me. The welfare state\u2019s gonna collapse along with everything else. There\u2019s no money, folks. The only solution to this is going to be self-reliance. The only solution to this is going to be entrepreneurism and rugged individualism, and you know what this crowd thinks of that. We are here because rugged individualism and self-reliance are two naughty terms. Social Darwinism and all of that. So it\u2019s gonna be an interesting decade ahead of us, if all this stuff happens, if people like Jack Kelly, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, are accurate. <\/p>\n

Let me read some more from his piece here: “It isn\u2019t the modest cuts in contributions to health and pension plans in Gov. Walker\u2019s bill labor leaders object to most. It isn\u2019t even the restriction of collective bargaining to wages only. It\u2019s the provision which makes payment of union dues voluntary.” Now, we\u2019ve mentioned that in Wisconsin. That really is, at this point, because that\u2019s the number one issue for leadership. Right now the union dues are an automatic deduction, just like your FICA or your tax — there nothing you can do — it gets automatically deducted. Walker\u2019s bill, oh, no, it\u2019s not anymore. The union employee is going to have to write that check. Then it becomes voluntary. And that\u2019s when the union gets threatened because that busts up the money laundering train. That\u2019s what bugs the leadership. Now, the rank-and-file is going to be concerned about what happens to wages. The rank-and-file will be concerned about their contributions to health and pension plans. That\u2019s their back pocket. The union leadership, the heck with that. They are worried about the provision which makes payment of union dues voluntary. <\/p>\n

And that, writes Mr. Kelly, he\u2019s very astute here, “This is a body blow to Democrats, too. They depend heavily on unions to fill their campaign coffers.” That\u2019s an understatement. It\u2019s a money laundering scheme. They don\u2019t depend on it. They are one and the same. Democrat campaign coffers are the state public employee unions. They collect campaign donations in the form of union dues, which are paid for by the taxes of the average, ordinary John and Jane Doe, who have no clue what they\u2019re doing. Their taxes are deducted. You tell the average John and Jane Doe that, what is it, three, four percent of their taxes end up in the Democrat Party automatically? Okay, so you\u2019ve got two factors here on the union side. You got the rank-and-file, and they will be concerned about what happens to their health and pension plans and their wages. Leadership don\u2019t care about that. They care about the dues. <\/p>\n

Now, you\u2019ve got another potential nuclear blast waiting to go up there between the rank and file and the leadership over divergent, different interests or causes in all of this. Then you add this, in Wisconsin the union bosses, what did they spend, $3 million, and they lost that election? They spent $3 million on the Supreme Court election and they lost, and up next they\u2019re gonna try to recall a bunch of state senators and they\u2019re gonna spend even more trying to do that. Now, imagine if 20% of their members decided not to pay dues. Well, they\u2019d be in heap big trouble.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: Okay, here\u2019s Jack… Jack… Jack Kelly. Right. (I\u2019d-a remembered it if it was St. Patrick\u2019s Day.) Jack Kelly is wrapping up his piece here: “So, some public employee unions may try to win public support by attacking the public. Though thuggery is unappealing to most Americans, union bosses will win some fights. But they\u2019ll be rear guard actions like those fought by the Nazis during their retreats to the Rhine and the Elbe. We\u2019re flat broke. This dooms them.” We don\u2019t have any money. “It may also doom the Democratic Party, which is a coalition of special interest groups with little more in common than their desire to feed from the public trough.”<\/p>\n

Boy, that is so true. That\u2019s it: The Democrat Party “is a loose-knit bunch of coalitions” that have a couple or three things in common. One of them, the major one, is big government. That\u2019s essentially it, and it requires a never-ending cycle of taxpayer money laundered through the federal and state governments back to the Democrats. That\u2019s what it requires. But there\u2019s no money. We are flat broke. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: Back to unions. This is, of all places, in the Los Angeles Times: 70% of Californians… Now, this is hard to believe: 70% of Californians are for caps on union benefits. Californians! “A cap on pensions and a later retirement age — even for current public employees — are supported by the poll\u2019s respondents. California voters want government employees to give up some retirement benefits to help ease the state\u2019s financial problems, favoring a cap on pensions and a later age for collecting them, according to a new poll. … Voters appear ready to embrace changes not just for future hires but also for current employees who have been promised the benefits under contract.<\/p>\n

“Seventy percent of respondents said they supported a cap on pensions for current and future public employees. Nearly as many, 68%, approved of raising the amount of money government workers should be required to contribute to their retirement. Increasing the age at which government employees may collect pensions was favored by 52%.” Seventy percent favor this in California. The pollster is Stanley Greenberg, Clinton\u2019s pollster. This is Greenberg-Carville. It\u2019s pretty… (interruption) Oh, Carville wasn\u2019t part of this? Greenberg was, yeah, but a Republican was part of the poll as well. It was a joint poll. All right. <\/p>\n

“‘It\u2019s pretty clear that there\u2019s broad support for making changes in the area of pensions,\u2019 said Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who co-directed the bipartisan poll for The [LA] Times and the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences.” That Stanley Greenberg, Snerdley. Rosa DeLauro\u2019s husband, right. He\u2019s the Clintons\u2019 long-time pollster and Carville\u2019s longtime business partner. That Stanley Greenberg. Seventy percent of Californians are for caps on union benefits. Greenberg himself was involved in the Democrat side of the poll. <\/p>\n

Even he admits it shows something has to be done to curb runaway union pensions. In the story, though, this ends up getting blame on “envy” by a union boss. The union boss is saying that the reason for the 70% is private sector employees have envy. The union leader says (paraphrased), “Well, this poll, we don\u2019t count this because it\u2019s clear that the people in the poll just are jealous of the great benefit package we have.” No, Mr. Union Thug. It\u2019s because they know they\u2019re paying for it, and they\u2019re paying you and your union membership more than they are earning. <\/p>\n

It just ain\u2019t fair!<\/p>\n

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RUSH: Here\u2019s Richard in Jupiter, Florida. Great to have you, sir, on the program from right up the road. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, Rush, it\u2019s an honor. It\u2019s funny, I suspect there will be a federal agency coming up with a plan any day now to ban gasoline advertising from all interstates and it will be fast tracked to the president, but anyway I actually called about —<\/p>\n

RUSH: You know what that, no more price signs on the — (laughing)<\/p>\n

CALLER: Absolutely. Anyway, the GM thing just gets me infuriated because every bankruptcy in history of that scale, I mean there was something wrong with the company or the product or whatever, which was not the case here. The only problem was the union and their unfunded pensions, obscene salaries, paying for workers that don\u2019t go to work. So for the first time ever a bankruptcy that large, not only do the shareholders get wiped out which is typical, but the bondholders got wiped out and they don\u2019t even talk about it. They did not fund any of the bondholders or the holders of the preferred stock, and yet they don\u2019t talk at all about how the pensions fared in that, which is to say they all came out whole.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You know, I\u2019ve had a lot of people ask me when this subject comes up, the same thing happened with Chrysler, “What do you mean the bondholders, Rush? Could you explain the bondholders?” Yeah, when you understand it, it\u2019s even worse when you understand it. You can buy stock in a company or you can buy bonds in a company, just like you can buy treasuries or municipal bonds, you can buy Chrysler, General Motor bonds, or you could. As a bondholder you are a more preferred customer, you\u2019re higher on the ladder than a stockholder is. And in the case of Chrysler specifically, I think General Motors to an extent, when it came to the bankruptcy finalization, it was Obama\u2019s administration that told the bondholders, “Screw you,” and they got nothing, and when they wanted value for their investment they were told they were greedy. <\/p>\n

So the value of the company was transferred to the AFL-CIO. So basically what the General Motors bailout was, was nothing more than “finally putting the right people in ownership,” and that is the union leaders. “They should have owned the company all along. It\u2019s not fair that the workers didn\u2019t own it.” The second thing was the actual money was used to shore up the pension and health care benefits, which were also gonna flitter away to practically nothing. And don\u2019t forget General Motors has been forgiven all of its taxes for years to come, and they\u2019re still reporting losses. But, yeah, the bondholders, who would be the first on any list of reimbursement in bankruptcy got zilch. They were told to go pound sand and then when they opposed and wanted to be part of the negotiation to have some value, they were called greedy by Obama.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: General Motors said that the government was preventing them from offering bondholders more than 10% of the restructured company because in Obama\u2019s view the bondholders are just simple speculators, they\u2019re just investment speculators, and they don\u2019t deserve to be rewarded for screwing around with the system.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: Alturas, California. Hi, Jerry, it\u2019s great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thanks very much for taking my call, and I hope my mom\u2019s listening. She turned me on to back in the early nineties and I\u2019ve been listening ever since.<\/p>\n

RUSH: God bless your mother. Get her 100 blooms of love.<\/p>\n

CALLER: You know, I will. We just came from her house and did a bunch of work for her and are doing what we can. I\u2019ll get right to my point. I\u2019ve been a firefighter for 36 years like my father before me, and for the last 27 years I\u2019ve been represented by a union, and I have most certainly benefited by that union representation. However, I do agree with you 100% on your assessment about what public employee unions are doing to our country, and I think that it — it… It does not need to be “stopped,” but some things, some aspects of collective bargaining need to be curtailed, in particular the deduction of dues from paychecks like you mentioned earlier.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah. It\u2019s a money laundering operation. I want to take the occasion of your call to try to clarify something. Nobody here, certainly not me, is opposed to anybody earning a living. The beef here is that the salaries — the benefits, the health care, all of that — for public union employees are being paid by taxpayers. These people are losing their homes, they\u2019re out of work, and they are being taxed at levels necessary to pay public sector employees twice what they are earning — and that automatic union deduction simply goes straight to the Democrat Party. It\u2019s a money laundering operation. What\u2019s missing on here is a sense of equilibrium, a sense of proportion — and there isn\u2019t the money to pay for it anymore. It just isn\u2019t there in more and more states. They\u2019re bankrupt, or soon will be. The money just isn\u2019t there — and the states, unlike the federal government, can\u2019t print it. They have to borrow it, and that only exacerbates the problems. Anyway, I appreciate the call. <\/p>\n

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