{"id":18734,"date":"2011-04-11T01:01:01","date_gmt":"2011-07-20T00:21:21","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-07-20T00:21:21","modified_gmt":"2011-07-20T00:21:21","slug":"callers_give_thumbs_down_to_deal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/04\/11\/callers_give_thumbs_down_to_deal\/","title":{"rendered":"Callers Give Thumbs Down to Deal"},"content":{"rendered":"<section>\n<p>RUSH: Carthage, Missouri. This is Gordy. Gordy, welcome to the EIB Network. It\u2019s great to have you here.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Yeah, dittos, Rush. This deal on the surface is actually worse than what it appears because included in that $38 billion worth of cuts is the $12 billion that they\u2019ve already cut out of the continuing resolution.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125109.Par.89380.ImageFile_579145865bbcd.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"265\" class=\"alignright\"\/>RUSH: Yeah, I heard that.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: The whole deal makes me sick. I mean they talk a good game, but when it comes down to it, nothing really gets changed up there in DC.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: So, just to be clear, let\u2019s take away this $12 million from the 38, and let\u2019s make it 26. There\u2019s not one part of you that thinks, &#8220;Okay, at least it\u2019s $26 billion. At least we\u2019re going in the right direction.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Well &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I\u2019m not trying to lead you anywhere. I\u2019m not looking for the right or wrong answer. There\u2019s no wrong answer. I want to know what you really think.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: I think this is nothing. As you pointed out, this might be two or three days\u2019 worth of deficit that we\u2019ve racked up and the whole deal just makes me want to puke.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Why do you think all the big celebration about it?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: PR. I agree with you a hundred percent on it\u2019s a snow job as far as the news media telling everybody how the Democrats really took it on the chin on this one. Basically if you use the Democratic or the liberal playbook, whatever they say they do the opposite of, and it\u2019s the same thing with the news media, whatever they say you can bet it\u2019s the opposite.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, I don\u2019t disagree with that. But I\u2019m just sitting here thinking, if the Democrats and the press are gonna tell each other that they really got rolled with $38 billion, I know they\u2019re committed to spending and I know they\u2019re committed to Keynesian economics, but you just know that in the privacy of closed doors, they are high-fiving each other and they\u2019re slapping each other on the back. Given what happened in November, and they got out of this with $38 billion of cuts, we\u2019re talking pennies. Now, at the same time, this is sort of the dichotomy or the dilemma. They are scared because the election results in November were real. If the Washington GOP were acting as though they understood what that election meant, then the Democrats would have a real fight on their hands. They know full well they would have lost the PR of a government shutdown. They know. Somehow they convinced &#8212; well, I don\u2019t think they had to convince anybody &#8212; the Republicans thought they would pay the big PR price for it. They wouldn\u2019t have. The Democrats would have. The Democrats would have paid the price for it.<\/p>\n<p>So my gut tells me that the Democrats are thinking they dodged a major bullet here, especially given the November results. Now, there\u2019s some argument and there\u2019s some disagreement over whether the $38 billion includes $10 billion of previous continuing resolution. There\u2019s a lot we still really don\u2019t know about this. In fact, some of the details still haven\u2019t been worked out, all that notwithstanding. Let\u2019s not even monkey around with it, $38 billion is bad enough. We don\u2019t have to make it worse. (interruption) Well, I know, Obama said we spent $70 billion less than we were gonna spend. He\u2019s out there trying to get in on this, too. That\u2019s what I mean. The debate\u2019s been shifted. <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125109.Par.4584.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"219\" class=\"alignright\"\/>Jenny, Seattle, Washington, you\u2019re next on the EIB Network. Hi.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Hey, Rush, you are my daily vitamins. Thanks for all you\u2019re doing.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Thank you very much.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Your previous caller pretty much said it all for me. I was so furious the other night listening to the news media\u2019s response and Fox News\u2019 Carl Cameron. It was so evident that he was just blowing smoke and talking about how the Democrats had really lost and how great a job Boehner did and it just didn\u2019t smell right. It stunk so bad to think that they have gotten this paltry sum of money cut back, and it was just counterfeit, false. I think the only honest response I feel we heard was from Michele Bachmann afterwards, who boldly said she would vote &#8220;no.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah, Mike Pence has said so since, too, that he\u2019s likely gonna vote &#8220;no.&#8221; It looks like &#8212; and this is as of last night, so things might have changed &#8212; but it looks like, you know, 218 votes to pass anything in the House, and it looks like they\u2019re gonna have to have some Democrat votes to make this thing pass. Because enough Tea Party Republicans are gonna vote &#8220;no.&#8221; It\u2019s what it looks like.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Rush, just a last point. I got something in my e-mail yesterday that said March Madness, US government spent more than eight times its monthly revenue in this March, that it spent 8.2 times the net federal tax revenue for the month of March.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah? Doesn\u2019t matter, we cut $38 billion.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Very scary.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah. Jenny, thanks very much. Jenny, one of my all-time top ten favorite female names.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT <\/p>\n<p>RUSH: We go to Lumberton, Mississippi. This is Jack. It\u2019s great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Hello, Rush. It\u2019s an honor to speak to you. I\u2019ve been a member since \u201989.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Thank you, sir, very much.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: I am a Tea Partier, and I am a power of one, and I have called Speaker Boehner\u2019s office today, after seeing that disgusting performance on the morning news that he had.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Wait, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You mean the Speaker on Fox this morning?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Okay.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: And to me, this is a put-on. It was a put-on put on by the RINOs and the Democrats to discourage us, to get as ticked off and play us the fool.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: But wait! But wait! Everybody\u2019s portraying this as a big victory for the Tea Party.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: No, it\u2019s not! It\u2019s a farce. It is an absolute farce. A hundred [b]illion, when you have a $3.5 trillion budget, that\u2019s a farce. That ain\u2019t gonna save our country. You know, when I called Boehner, I said, &#8220;You know, believe it or not, if 2 + 2 = 4, and $38 billion is closer to $30 billion, than $100 billion; $38 billion is closer to $30 billion than $61 billion. So, you know, you are trying to play numbers, and you\u2019re dealing with the wrong people. We are educated out here, we are not illiterate, and you guys are making the biggest mistake in your life.&#8221; I encourage Michele [Bachmann] to start talking to her Tea Party people; and I encourage every person out there to call Boehner and tell him how disgusted you are with this deal, and to encourage your congresspeople &#8212; if they\u2019re not Tea Party &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: But what&#8230;? Wait, wait. What are you gonna do if they end up thinking you\u2019re just a bunch of kooks?<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125109.Par.78179.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"340\" height=\"226\" class=\"alignright\"\/>CALLER: They do that now! They do that now! I call up my senator; I never get a straight answer. I get a written document about another subject &#8212; and my senators are both Republicans. It\u2019s disgusting. They are not&#8230; You know, it reminds me of the old days: Good cop\/bad cop, and that\u2019s what it appears to me. George Bush, Sr., New World Order, that\u2019s the first time you ever heard of it.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: No, no, no, it\u2019s not. No, it\u2019s not. No. A lot of people were talking about the New World Order before Bush 41.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Yeah, but Bush emphasized it in his speech that year. George Bush, &#8220;compassionate conservatism.&#8221; That is a farce. You know, I get so upset. Every time we get into power, we don\u2019t have a person up there that has the gravitas to enforce it and that\u2019s John Boehner. When you get up there and cry on national television, are you gonna take that guy serious? Come on, now. He\u2019s a wimp. He is a wimp, and he caved. He caved in because he was afraid that closing the government down was going to ruin the Republicans\u2019 chances. Let me tell you what it did. It\u2019s called caving. He ruined the Republicans\u2019 chances in 2012, because right now, speaking as a power of one, I see us as a demise party. We need to separate ourselves from the Republicans. That\u2019s what they want us to do anyhow.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah, they do, but not for the reasons you think.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Oh, I know. I don\u2019t know at all, believe me, I don\u2019t. But I draw my own conclusions based on what I see on the news and what I hear. I listen to your show every day, I have to go out in my truck and turn it on and listen to it, \u2019cause I live in a remote area, but I\u2019m telling you: This is a farce. This&#8230; This&#8230; Watch what happens when we go to raise the debt limit. Just watch. It ain\u2019t gonna happen.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Let me ask you: Do you think Donald Trump has gravitas?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Yeah, but he\u2019s doing it for the wrong reasons, Rush. He\u2019s doing it for publicity. I don\u2019t take him that serious. I like him, but I really truly do not believe he wants to be president. I really don\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Okay. So you watched Boehner on Fox today, and you\u2019re not &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: &#8212; buying his claim that what they ended up really doing was cutting $100 billion because you can count $40 billion from Obama\u2019s budget and add the earlier continuing resolutions, and if you add it all up you get $100 billion? You\u2019re not buying that?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: No. And I\u2019ll tell you, the only thing John Boehner got out of those meetings with the president: Arrogance. That\u2019s what he got: Arrogance. To sit there on national TV to think that we\u2019re so stupid out here we don\u2019t know what\u2019s going on, he is so wrong. He is so wrong. I have people that we have meetings and we talk about this. We have two, 300 people. <\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, wait a minute, then. You\u2019re not a voice of one.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: I am. Ooh, yes.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, but you &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Everybody speaks for themselves. You know, they have right to disagree with me, and sometimes they do. But we all talk about it. But we all are against what\u2019s going on in this country. I sit here and I listen to Mr. Boehner today. I said, &#8220;Ugh. Did he trade in his Armani suit for one of them little communist brown jackets?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Now, now&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: He\u2019ll be posing &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Now, now. Wait a second, now. I understand your pique. I understand your pique out there, Jack, but you\u2019re talking about the wrong guys wearing the Mao jackets. Everybody knows that it\u2019s Hillary that wears the Mao jackets &#8212; and, look, you\u2019re forcing me to step in here. There were some budget cuts here! You\u2019re acting like we\u2019ve added $38 billion (which we have on the debt side from the interest and so forth; nobody\u2019s talking about that), but I got your message, and I know that you\u2019re not alone. You say you\u2019re a voice of one, but I know you\u2019re not alone. (interruption) What do you mean, &#8220;What was his message?&#8221; (interruption) Oh, I don\u2019t need to repeat what his message was, Snerdley! Everybody knows. He\u2019s not happy with the deal. He thinks the Republican leadership takes the Tea Party, for example, and thinks they\u2019re a bunch of rubes who can be spun with all this language here about $38 billion being serious budget cuts. He\u2019s just not buying it. <\/p>\n<p>Aaron in Detroit, Michigan, you\u2019re next on the EIB Network. Hello, sir.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Thanks, Rush. How are you?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Very well. Thank you.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Can I give a dittos to my dad listening in Naples, Florida? He listens every day.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Absolutely.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125109.Par.47971.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"340\" height=\"232\" class=\"alignleft\"\/>CALLER: Hey, Rush, I wanted to just say that I think the deal was really bad. Not because of the dollar amount per se. The dollar amount was gonna be small either way. The problem that I see is that we didn\u2019t shut the government down, so the one-half of one-third of the government that we control just showed that we don\u2019t have the spine to do what it takes; and I guess what my point is that we\u2019re gonna go into a negotiations to raise the debt limit, and then look at Ryan\u2019s budget after that &#8212; and even Ryan\u2019s budget at $6.6 trillion in cuts over ten years doesn\u2019t get us to a balanced budget until sometime ten years or more out. So we\u2019re gonna talk about carrying at least a $14 trillion debt, most likely more, in perpetuity; and if they don\u2019t say to themselves or if they don\u2019t put something in legislation that says, &#8220;Hey, we\u2019re gonna balance the budget, and if there\u2019s a surplus, we\u2019re not gonna spend it; we\u2019re gonna go to debt reduction,&#8221; we\u2019re gonna continue to carry this 14 to 15 to whatever trillion-dollar debt going forward.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, now, wait: Ryan\u2019s plan is to eliminate the national debt.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Not until at least ten years out.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah, well, no. It\u2019s longer than that, but there\u2019s nobody else with a plan to do that.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: But his plan won\u2019t even get the deficits to balance until ten years out.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, that\u2019s not all that out of the realm of possibility. I mean, these deficits are huge.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Oh, yeah.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: There\u2019s gonna be some major restructuring necessary \u2019cause so much of it is entitlement spending which is supposedly untouchable.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Absolutely.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: But, you know, this is why you use the leverage points when you have \u2019em and we had a leverage point here. We could shut the government down so we could put to rest, once and for all, the fear of that nonsense. Take away that threat from the Democrats for a long time. Go ahead and shut it down, and show world has not come to an end. Make your point, get what you need out of it, and then retool.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: I agree. We just put that bullet back in the gun for \u2019em for the next fight.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah. Well, but, have we shown we\u2019re willing to pull the trigger, though? What good\u2019s a bullet being in the chamber (ahem) if you\u2019re not gonna pull the trigger at any point?<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Okay, my preliminary read on the situation, after doing an in-depth study of callers today and a voluminous amount of e-mail &#8212; approaching a record amount of e-mail &#8212; is that there is a serious backlash that has begun and it is going to swell. The entire weekend was spent trying to tamp it down. The entire weekend media coverage was an attempt to eliminate or to tamp down any kind of a backlash, but it doesn\u2019t appear that it is working. It doesn\u2019t appear that the rank-and-file are buying any of the spin that was featured throughout the Washington media over the weekend. And there\u2019s a reason. You don\u2019t go in and promise a hundred billion dollars of cuts, which is not that much money. It\u2019s not that hard to do given those election results. It\u2019s not that hard to do when every dollar spent originates in the House. Nothing happens unless it originates in the House of Representatives. That\u2019s constitutional. Some people may not know that. Every spending bill must initiate in the House of Representatives, the people\u2019s house. So it\u2019s not altogether true to say that, well, we\u2019re just one half or one-third of one half of the &#8212; much more control than that. <\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: David, San Diego, California, great to have you, sir, on the EIB Network. Hi.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Hello, Rush. It\u2019s a pleasure to speak with you.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125109.Par.13936.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"251\" height=\"340\" class=\"alignleft\"\/>RUSH: You bet, sir.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: I have a different take than you do about the thing that has changed since the Republicans promised a hundred billion dollars in cuts.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: All right.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: And I think the thing that has changed since then is the fact that we did not gain control of the Senate. And so I believe that given that, the deal that was made this weekend was the best deal that we could make under the circumstances, and I also think that by changing the subject from how much more to spend to how much less to spend, that in and of itself is enough of a victory to take this to the next discussion.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: There\u2019s no question we turned the boat around. I hope it\u2019s not temporary. We\u2019ve turned the boat around from spending to cutting. And you do have to do that first. I will acknowledge you do have to turn the boat around. You have to even start the process. You just don\u2019t go into reverse automatically. You have to turn the boat around.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: You know, Rush, if we had managed to swing the Senate to Republican control, I think the conversation would have been even that much more different, and the agenda would have been different and, you know, in the Senate the one who controls, controls the agenda.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: With all due respect, I disagree, and I cite Governor Manchin of West Virginia, a Democrat who is siding with the Republicans every chance he gets. The Democrats have more vulnerable reelects up in 2012 than we do, and they are petrified that if they stick with the Obama agenda they are going to be vulnerable. They\u2019re already vulnerable. They\u2019ve got 23 seats they have to defend. We only have ten. And I think since all spending bills originate in the House, we had more power than we were willing to use. There\u2019s no question we had more power than we were willing to use. Obama would have vetoed the budget. Clinton shuts down the government. Obama woulda shut it down, too. The difference is this is not 1995. We had more ammo than we were willing to use. Now, whether we weren\u2019t confident of it, I don\u2019t know. But we turned the boat around. We coulda gotten a lot more out of this and pleased a lot more people.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: To Northridge, California. Mike, hi, I\u2019m glad we got to you. Hello, sir.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thanks for taking my call. Love you. I just have to disagree with you on one thing &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: What\u2019s that?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: &#8212; and, you know, so much of what you say resonates so, so well with me over the years, but on this one I really believe I\u2019ve sat and look at this for years. Republicans &#8212; on the budget, now; I\u2019m not talking about social issues, abortion, but on the budget, Republicans &#8212; and Democrats, they see our money, it\u2019s their money, and they all vote for budgets; and they all have voted deeper and deeper and bigger and bigger budgets. There\u2019s been not one president in the last 50 years that walked away without increasing the national debt. So I think this whole thing that\u2019s gone on in the last two weeks, it\u2019s all been a dog and pony show. It\u2019s all been a Playhouse 90. You gotta have the good guys, you know, fighting the bad guys so that they look like they got scarred up in war so they can go back to their constituents and say, &#8220;You know, look, we suffered some anguish here. We got the best deal we could.&#8221; Remember when Representative Cantor a couple months ago said were there hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars citing the GAO report &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yep.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: &#8212; in duplication, waste, and now we\u2019re talking about &#8220;a drop of water in the ocean.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: To quote somebody named Rush Limbaugh.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: A drop of water!<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: So what are you disagreeing with me about?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Well, because you single out Pelosi and you single out Reid &#8212; as rightly you should &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah, don\u2019t &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: &#8212; but right behind them is gonna be the Republican leadership saying, &#8220;Yeah, we need to increase the national &#8212; the debt ceiling.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Wait a second. I don\u2019t think if you call Boehner\u2019s office, I\u2019m gonna be popular there today.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: (chuckles) That I would agree, but I think they\u2019re going to ask to have the ceiling increased, too. They\u2019re all in bed together is all I\u2019m saying, more so than I think you give them credit for.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: No, I think they\u2019re&#8230; You and I agree. The difference here is we\u2019re talking ruling class versus Tea Party. The Tea Party represents the first legitimate chance to get our hands in this till.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Absolutely.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: And the promises were made to the Tea Party because the Tea Party was responsible for the Republican victory, and it\u2019s the Tea Party that is being snookered here.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: And they should all get together on the steps &#8212; okay? &#8212; of Congress and have a mass press conference and say how vehemently opposed they are to this sham. This is not a deal. This is like walking out of a car dealership with just the control to the radio and they keep the car. This is nothing!<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I didn\u2019t know there was a separate control to the radio you could have.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125109.Par.34258.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"209\" height=\"200\" class=\"alignright\"\/>CALLER: (laughing)<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, look, I &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: It\u2019s nothing. It\u2019s just a PR joke.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I know.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: I wouldn\u2019t be surprised if the DNC or the Obama administration &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: This is &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Sent out talking points to all &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: This &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: &#8212; the Big Media people to play up Boehner.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: There still are differences and this is why, though, there has been the focus in the last year and a half on the whole concept of the &#8220;ruling class&#8221; or the DC, inside-the-Beltway elites. Harry Reid and Obama are being entirely hypocritical on the debt ceiling. The Republicans&#8230; Of course, the debt ceiling is going to be raised. See, that\u2019s what everybody knows, the government at some point\u2019s gonna have to raise the point. The question is: What are we gonna get for it now? And this is an opportunity &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: More debt.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Pardon?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: More debt.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, yeah, we\u2019re gonna get more debt, but here\u2019s a chance. The Democrats love the spending side. They want it to balloon. Your theory is the Republicans do, too. Mine &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Absolutely. Look what happened when Bush 2 tried to reduce the rate of budget increase. His own party &#8212; which has a majority, okay? &#8212; just crucified him, and all he wanted to do is slow down the rate of budget increase to like maybe 4%, remember that?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, not entirely that way. But what I was gonna say here is that now we\u2019re gonna see. Okay, we\u2019ve got this big victory here of $38 billion and now they\u2019re talking, &#8220;Okay, now we\u2019re gonna start talking trillions. Now we\u2019re gonna start talking serious money with the debt ceiling.&#8221; Well, a lot of people are upset here because we have a lot of leverage here to force what we wanted before we got to this deal. We coulda shut down the government and sent a real message going into this debt limit argument. It\u2019s the pedal to the metal, rubber meets the road, whatever cliche you want to say. This is where the Republicans have the opportunity to show that they are not on the same page as the ruling class Democrats in Washington. That\u2019s why this debt ceiling is gonna be so important, even more so now because of the way the continuing resolution ended up.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: And the debt ceiling is a fait accompli. They already worked that deal out. They all know that they\u2019re gonna agree to an increased debt ceiling. They knew about this 60-versus-20 million compromise. They had to play it to the last minute to convince the voters that they were really fighting each other. They were fighting each other over nothing to make it look like it was important. A lot of stupid people out there think that Republicans came away with a win. It\u2019s kind of like we got nothing.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Uh&#8230;uh&#8230; You called to disagree with me and tell me I don\u2019t get it &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: No. I apologize, boss. (chuckles)<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: &#8212; and you are simply repeating my first hour to me!<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: I heard the first hour. I just think they\u2019re more in bed than you give them credit for.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: No! How&#8230;? How can you say that when I have said the whole left wing has gotten together with a ruse here to portray Boehner as the big winner?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Well, that part I agree with you on.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Whoa!<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: The part I don\u2019t think you\u2019re understanding &#8212; maybe I haven\u2019t explained it well enough. That part is that Boehner doesn\u2019t want to cut spending. They don\u2019t want to cut it!<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Uh, uh&#8230; Ummm&#8230; (groans) Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I gotta go to a break.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125109.Par.79297.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"340\" height=\"259\" class=\"alignright\"\/>RUSH: Now, look, folks, seriously in all candor here, having a little fun with the last caller, there\u2019s no comparison. To say that the Republicans equal the Democrats as spenders is a bit too far. That\u2019s just having a little fun with the guy, but he\u2019s simply mistaken if he believes that Republicans are as big spenders as the Democrats. It may have been true for other Republican Congresses, but it isn\u2019t true of this one. Now, whatever else can be said about this deal, there are some real cuts in the budget here, not rates-of-growth cuts. It\u2019s not enough. But they are real. These are not reductions in the rate of increase. That is something new. But they shoulda been bigger, they coulda been bigger, they coulda kept their original promise. Boehner would probably be the first to agree they should have been bigger. All I\u2019m hearing is, &#8220;Well, this is the best we could get.&#8221; And a lot of people on our side think this is the best we can get since we don\u2019t control the Senate, or it\u2019s the best we can get since Obama would veto it, it\u2019s the best we could get. <\/p>\n<p>Try for more! Try for more! The best we can get never won anything. Yeah, you know, coming in number five in the market\u2019s the best I can do, as I got fired. Yeah, it\u2019s the best we can do at the time. No, that is not the attitude that wins. It\u2019s the best we can get. It\u2019s a cop-out, it is an excuse, or even worse. But everybody that\u2019s called here today, you notice how much of the talk is about individual Republicans. Cantor\u2019s name has been mentioned. Boehner\u2019s name has been mentioned. So little talk about the people. That\u2019s how you know the conservative inside-the-Beltway types are working with the Republican leadership. And I really look at all of the excuses that are being made here, &#8220;Well, it\u2019s best we can get now, we don\u2019t control the Senate.&#8221; Well, you didn\u2019t try hard enough. You could have tried for a whole lot more here. But if you\u2019re gonna go in with fear, fear kills. If you\u2019re gonna go in with a defensive posture as opposed to an aggressive or offensive posture then you\u2019re gonna end up with this kind of result. I mean you raise people\u2019s expectations and then you come in and say, &#8220;It\u2019s the best we could do,&#8221; it\u2019s not gonna fly. Just isn\u2019t gonna fly. <\/p>\n<p>What we witnessed in Washington last week will, again, see for weeks to come is a debate on fiscal restraint and on values. We have spenders, and we have savers. There are elected officials ready to change the paradigm, and then those that are very slow to accept the need for change, and some are gonna outright oppose the change. Now, in the middle of all this you have the Heritage Foundation. I spoke to \u2019em on Friday night and I told \u2019em what an honor it was to speak to them and other fellow members and know they\u2019ve got their sleeves rolled up each and every day, analyzing, inspiring, doing what they can to advance the cause. They are your conservative voice in Washington. They are the best research, the best connected group that you can rely on to take our values and apply \u2019em to the debate. And in the coming weeks in months the debate over a government budget for 2012 will include the voices and thoughts of many, including you. You get yourself involved by communicating with those that you elected, and by aligning yourself with Heritage. That does matter. The information they provide, the opportunity for you to learn and participate in the debate is great, 710,000 members at Heritage now, and as late as this past Friday night I witnessed them. They had seminars, these people, 7:45 in the morning they started. <\/p>\n<p>I went on at 8:45, and I wrapped up at 10:15, and they weren\u2019t ready for me to finish. Of course that\u2019s always the case. But they had been there all day and they were gonna be there all day on Saturday doing the same thing. All these seminars, some of the finest people that you know, they came down to appear on panels and so forth. And you don\u2019t have to be invited to join Heritage. I used to once think that you had to be invited to read National Review. I did. I once called and said, &#8220;Can I subscribe?&#8221; I thought you had to be asked. You don\u2019t have to be invited to join Heritage. You can join today at <a href=\"http:\/\/askheritage.org\">AskHeritage.org<\/a> for as little as $25, and once you\u2019re a member you have access to a great website with a never-ending stream and flow of education, inspiration, information. AskHeritage.org. <\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Here\u2019s Marty in Washington. Great to have you on the program, sir. Hello.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Oh, thanks, Rush. Look, I think you\u2019re the only one who can explain this to me. Why would Boehner pass up a chance to shut down the government when Obama was on record saying he would veto any bill to pay the military during a shutdown? Am I missing something here? I mean forget a hundred billion, $61 billion, $38 billion, it seems clear to me Obama handed the Republicans a golden opportunity for a clear distinction between the two parties and a PR coup. If I\u2019m Boehner and I hear Obama say he won\u2019t pay the military in a shutdown, I\u2019d say no deal, shut down immediately and run to the microphones and let the cameras roll.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I have your answer.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: What is it?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: He doesn\u2019t want to be Newt Gingrich.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: You don\u2019t think the public would get irate about the military not being paid?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: No, no. I\u2019m telling you he was afraid he would end up being portrayed as Newt Gingrich, the Grinch that stole Christmas, all this stuff. He was afraid that the press would come after him and he would be personally blamed for destroying people\u2019s lives.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: But, Rush &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: You\u2019re right. Don\u2019t misunderstand. It\u2019s what we\u2019ve been talking about here. It was a golden opportunity, tremendous leverage points we didn\u2019t use.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: In \u201995 Clinton said, &#8220;All right, we\u2019re gonna pay the military anyway, yeah,&#8221; so Newt had a tough time, but you\u2019ve got Obama on record saying, &#8220;No, I\u2019m not gonna pay the military.&#8221; My gosh, shut it down immediately, let the cameras roll.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125109.Par.34435.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" class=\"alignleft\"\/>RUSH: I agree. I\u2019m just telling you that in \u201995 &#8212; what is the worst thing that ever happened to you in your professional life? Whatever it is, \u201995 was it for these guys, and you have to understand, they do not think they will ever win a battle where the press is against them. They do not think no matter what that they will ever win that. I mean Boehner publicly said he\u2019s not gonna shut this government down. There\u2019s no political benefit to doing it. They remembered 1995. The thing that they forgot about 1995 is the Republicans picked up two seats in the Senate the next election. They kept the House. All they lost was the PR battle. Clinton won the White House, but, you know, who was our opponent? I mean we weren\u2019t really serious about that presidential race.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: But, Rush, how could we lose a PR battle when the Democrats say we won\u2019t pay the military and the Republicans are saying you gotta pay the military? How could we possibly lose a PR battle?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I don\u2019t want to sit here and take their side, but you ask, how do we lose a PR battle, how in the world does the US military get accused of rape and killing kids and having it stick? That happened. TIME Magazine accuses us of rape at Haditha, the Marines there, they got brought up on charges. It was all made up. All those stories of atrocities all made up. If the media sets its sights on you &#8212; look, I\u2019m not trying to excuse it, I\u2019m trying to explain to you their mind-set about it.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Hey, Rush, can I ask you a quick question related to that?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: I mean you\u2019re the consummate broadcast professional, all kidding aside, and I know you understand the Republicans have serious problems with their branding. And you know the public\u2019s having a hard time figuring out who\u2019s the winner at whatever the cut level, but why doesn\u2019t Boehner just phrase it in terms of how much the national debt is going up every day? I mean if we\u2019re sinking five billion dollars further in debt every day, why doesn\u2019t he just say future cuts have to be at least five billion every day &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, this question is asked of me for the last 23 years. You\u2019re basically saying, &#8220;Why don\u2019t the Republicans do X?&#8221; And all I can tell you is what they\u2019ve told me when I\u2019ve asked them that and they say, &#8220;Well, they won\u2019t cover us properly when they do it. They\u2019ll misreport it. They will impugn us and the truth won\u2019t be told about us.&#8221; I can\u2019t accurately describe the fear that they have of the Washington press corps to you. I\u2019m not excusing it. I cannot accurately describe it for you. Well, I can\u2019t impress upon you enough just how much of an influence it is over what they do and don\u2019t do. They are literally petrified of the Beltway media.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Yeah, that\u2019s just hard to believe. I just can\u2019t believe that.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, what do you think it is? I\u2019m not arguing with you; I\u2019m curious. If it\u2019s not that, what do you think it is?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Well, I\u2019m not kidding, you really are &#8212; <\/p>\n<p>RUSH: See, here\u2019s difference though.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: &#8212; you really are the consummate professional. You understand &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: But I can survive and even thrive being hated. An elected official cannot. Getting an audience and getting votes is two different things. People that hate you don\u2019t vote for you. The people that hate you will listen. You just have to keep giving them a reason every day, which I\u2019ve become an expert at. I just have to be me. I know how to brand myself. We all sit here and we say to ourselves what we would do if we were in their shoes. And I don\u2019t think I\u2019d be any different if I got up there.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: You\u2019re a genius because you\u2019re able to phrase the thing, phrase any issue or frame any issue in the proper context. I can\u2019t believe with all the money they\u2019ve got down there at the capital street there, you know where it\u2019s at &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: K Street, yeah.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: &#8212; they can\u2019t figure out how to frame the issue. Where we\u2019re sinking five billion dollars in debt further every day and the public is trying to figure out, okay, who wins when it\u2019s a hundred billion, who wins when it\u2019s $60 billion. Baloney! We\u2019re gonna put a finger in the dike. If the government\u2019s gonna stay in operation, we have to stop the debt clock.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: If we\u2019re sinking $5 billion in debt &#8212; you said it just in the last hour how much we\u2019re losing every day. Whatever that figure is, Boehner says, &#8220;Fine, we cut that much every day.&#8221; I mean it &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: He can say all he wants, but if he\u2019s not willing to close the government down or shut it, until he gets those kinds of restrictions on spending, the words aren\u2019t gonna mean anything. So it all boils down to what you\u2019re willing to do no matter what you say. I think probably for as long as I live, I\u2019m gonna get this question, why don\u2019t the Republicans do X? I used to get frustrated by it, and I used to get frustrated by &#8212; there\u2019s still people out there who are only going to think we\u2019ve won when the media starts agreeing with us and promoting what we believe, and that\u2019s never gonna happen, so those people are never, ever gonna feel victorious. And it\u2019s sort of a sad thing. <\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a hard thing to realize or deal with this forever unbalanced playing field. It\u2019s not level, it isn\u2019t fair or whatever, but you have to have an adult attitude about fairness and say nothing is. You have to deal with the obstacles that are in front of you. Why their messaging is off, you know, it could just be as simple as they aren\u2019t as conservative as we are. It could be no more complicated than that. Might surprise people, but it could be nothing simpler than that. They\u2019re just not as conservative. It\u2019s just not in their heart like it is in yours or it is in mine. We hope that it is and we expect it to be, but maybe it isn\u2019t. <\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: East Lansing, Michigan. This is Rod. You\u2019re next on the Rush Limbaugh program. Hello, sir.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125109.Par.0009.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"299\" height=\"417\" class=\"alignright\"\/>CALLER: Hi. Thank you for taking my call. Mega dittos.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: You bet.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: My first car was also a \u201972 Le Mans. Great car.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Really?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, mine was a \u201969.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Right. I knew that but we had the Le Mans thing in common and I just thought I\u2019d mention that. The reason I called, I was explaining to my wife how small $38 billion was in the context of the national budget and my wife is Japanese so I came up with a way to explain it to her, and if you have a six digit figure, say you make a hundred thousand dollars a year, you\u2019re probably not doing too bad but if you made $360,000 a year, you\u2019re living pretty good. And if someone decided to say, &#8220;Hey, we need to take $3,800 out of your $360,000,&#8221; it doesn\u2019t hurt too bad, does it? You see where I\u2019m going?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Wait a second. To take how much out from your $360,000?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: If you had $360,000 and you took $3,800 out of it, it does not hurt that much.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I\u2019d miss it.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Well, I mean we all would because we use it as we use it but it\u2019s not that bad in the context, you know, when you think of $3.6 trillion, and then you\u2019re only taking $38 billion &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Wait a second, $36 billion out of $3.6 trillion, we\u2019re talking pennies.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Exactly.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Not thousands.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Well, I realize that.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: If you make $360,000 and you lose a couple of quarters is what we\u2019re talking about.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Well, true enough.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: That\u2019s what you wouldn\u2019t care about. We need to cut dollars on the dollar.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: True enough. True enough. When you drop the zeros off and you make it a smaller number to deal with it just makes it more easy to understand and I thought that would be helpful.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I appreciate it.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Thank you very much for taking my call.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Okay, Rod. And we\u2019ve gotta brief, brief time-out. I\u2019ve often said don\u2019t try this at home.<\/p>\n<p>END TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>*Note: Links to content outside RushLimbaugh.com usually become inactive over time.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: Carthage, Missouri. This is Gordy. Gordy, welcome to the EIB Network. It\u2019s great to have you here. CALLER: Yeah, dittos, Rush. 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