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RUSH: Charles in Philadelphia, you are up next on the Rush Limbaugh program. Nice to have you here.<\/p>\n

CALLER: How you doing, Rush? Nice talking to you today. Listen, the reason why I\u2019m calling you is I am a combat vet from Vietnam — 3rd and 187th, 101st Airborne, Que Son Valley. I am the guy who called in artillery and air strikes, so I\u2019m telling you now that there is someone on the ground. And I called my congressman. He\u2019s a Republican.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait, wait. You mean…? Wait, wait, wait, wait. When you say “someone on the ground,” you mean somebody on our side?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. Yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: We got boots on the ground no matter what they\u2019re saying? Yeah, okay.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, there\u2019s an American on the ground there.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I gotcha, I gotcha, I gotcha.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Also I called my new congressman, new Republican congressman, the other day, and I told him that I wanted us out of Libya now, because for years we have been accusing Khadafy of killing Americans. Well, these rebels that he is fighting now supported his regime in killing Americans. Also, the other thing that I see, and I see no one talking about it…<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait, wait, wait, wait. I\u2019m just playing devil\u2019s advocate. How do you know the rebels supported his regime killing Americans?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, they\u2019ve been living there.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, they might not have had a choice.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, you can\u2019t say that about all of them.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You mean they could have moved?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, okay. I\u2019ll give you that, Rush. I\u2019ll give you that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay, I\u2019ll give you that. You know? But here was my other point to my congressman — and I\u2019m finding it hard to believe that I do not see other Vietnam vets speak out because when Democrats have “humanitarian” wars like Korea, Vietnam, it\u2019s my people that fight them. But these rebels, they have military training. Look at these guys on these anti-aircraft weapons. Look at the ones with the RPGs.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019ve seen them.<\/p>\n

CALLER: There is definitely training. So now I\u2019m thinking Khadafy may be right in saying he\u2019s fighting Al-Qaeda.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I don\u2019t think there\u2019s much argument that that\u2019s happening. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay, so now —<\/p>\n

RUSH: I don\u2019t know how widespread Al-Qaeda is in the rebel movement, but I don\u2019t think there\u2019s any doubt that they\u2019re part of it, that they\u2019re there.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes. So now supposedly we\u2019re gonna bomb — we are bombing — Libya to help these rebels.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: We still don\u2019t know who they are.<\/p>\n

RUSH: The best way to describe these rebels is the people in the east are the main suppliers of terrorism in Iraq. That\u2019s who the rebels are. There\u2019s a terrorist pipeline from eastern Libya to Iraq. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Excellent.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s who these rebels are.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, I agree.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And now they have inadvertently become allies because we\u2019ve decided Khadafy\u2019s gotta go because that\u2019s Obama\u2019s route to reelection.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And then I told my congressman, let\u2019s look at who\u2019s going to lead America into war here in Libya. Number one: You got Clinton. He\u2019s a draft dodger, sexual bullier. Number two: You\u2019ve got Harry Reid who was saying the American soldier was defeated in Iraq. Number three: You have Pelosi, who calls the children of the Nazi fighters Nazis. I mean, are these the people we want to follow into war? At least when I was in Vietnam, Richard Nixon supported me — and that\u2019s one thing I can say.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you know, this is an interesting observation that you have. It is kind of discombobulating that these are the people leading this. (interruption) It\u2019s why we\u2019re not at “war.” (laughing) It\u2019s why. It\u2019s exactly right. That\u2019s why they will not say we\u2019re at war. That\u2019s why they\u2019ve come up with this “kinetic military action” business. ‘Cause I know what old Charles is saying here. We basically have a cadre of anti-war activists running this show, yeah. I wouldn\u2019t argue with that. But these anti-war activists are trying to make it look like they\u2019re doing anything but wage war. <\/p>\n

It\u2019s not even them. They\u2019re passing it off to the UN, or to NATO. “This is humanitarian. We\u2019re in a humanitarian engagement here. Gotta get rid of the bad guy, Moammar Khadafy; and possibly, in the process, of this we will reinstall our Dear Leader — ‘Barack Hussein Obama! Mmm, mmm, mmm\u2019 — back into the White House in 2012; and in the process, we will then illustrate the proper use of the US military: Engage them in humanitarian efforts and causes which do not involve regime change or getting rid of bad guys or even pulling triggers. In fact, we\u2019ll probably get the Courageous Restraint Medal being awarded for the first time in this “kinetic military engagement.” <\/p>\n

I wouldn\u2019t be surprised.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Let me try something here, ladies and gentlemen. If you have been listening to the entire program — and I know that you have. We have an audience measurement that\u2019s called Time Spent Listening: TSL. We on the inside, highly trained broadcast specialists, refer to TSL. It\u2019s a very important rating category. I won\u2019t get into details. Legalities prevent me from doing so. However, I know that most of you listen not only to the whole show but then replay parts of it in the same day. So if you have, I wouldn\u2019t blame you if you would have concluded the following based on listening to me. <\/p>\n

If you\u2019ve listened the whole day, this is what you might have concluded and be wanting to ask me if you could get through on the phones. You might be scratching your head about these things and you might be saying, “Let me get this straight. Libya is a country, as you have demoed, that has a tremendous amount of energy. It\u2019s got oil and natural gas. There are lots of countries — European companies and a couple of American companies — in Libya, in the energy business. It\u2019s ruled by a guy who has been determined to be persona non grata. He\u2019s pond scum. <\/p>\n

It has been determined that this guy, Moammar Khadafy, has to go because this guy is mistreating his own citizens. He\u2019s being mean to them. The people who are fighting Khadafy are from a known terrorist organization called Al-Qaeda. The rebel group fighting Khadafy may not be entirely made up of Al-Qaeda, but it has been established that there are Al-Qaeda members and influences, and perhaps money propelling the rebels. And so are we. The United States, in our “kinetic action” and our allies, the United Nations, NATO and so forth, are supporting the rebels, many of whom are Al-Qaeda, over Khadafy. <\/p>\n

“And if we are victorious, and victory is defined as “Khadafy has to go,” then what is apparent is it is preferable for Al-Qaeda to have control over something they\u2019ve really never had before, and that is a nation state. The last time Al-Qaeda had anywhere near the control over a nation state was Afghanistan, and we routed them out of there starting at Tora Bora after 9\/11. Taliban was there; the Taliban\u2019s come back. We\u2019re fighting once again for this. But if we achieve victory, which has been defined by our regime as Khadafy\u2019s gotta go, that means that Al-Qaeda will then have a nation state over which to rule and govern, or hold. <\/p>\n

“And it happens to be a nation state with a lot of oil, which they would then control and perhaps generate lots of money for them. Is this, Mr. Limbaugh, what I hear you saying? And all of this may eventuate because it\u2019s been determined that for our president to be seen as a success, Khadafy has to go because that is what will define or be a part of the recipe of Obama being reelected in 2012?” If you\u2019re asking me that question, I couldn\u2019t blame you if that\u2019s your thought process. Well, what\u2019s somebody to conclude? Here\u2019s Khadafy. Khadafy\u2019s gotta go because he\u2019s being mean to his people. We gotta get rid of Khadafy, and the president now has said so. <\/p>\n

“Khadafy, you gotta go! Everybody in the world says you gotta go. We\u2019re not gonna take you out but you gotta go.” The people that will replace Khadafy could well be members of Al-Qaeda. So in order for the Obama Doctrine, which is “2012 or Bust”… (laughing) It sounds funny but it\u2019s true. In order for the Obama Doctrine to prevail here, Al-Qaeda has to end up having some sort of say over the future of Libya. Why, even the admiral running NATO admits in Senate testimony that they are investigating these rebels and that they are finding out there are Al-Qaeda connections. So if that\u2019s what you\u2019re thinking, I don\u2019t know how to tell you you\u2019re wrong. <\/p>\n

Yeah. I know. It\u2019s one of these classic WTFs. You know, who has the answer to this? What are we doing here? We\u2019ve identified Khadafy as a rotten SOB who\u2019s gotta go, and we are urging his departure — and people we are helping to push him out of the way happen to be members of a terrorist organization who attacked the World Trade Center on 9\/11, 2001. Yeah. If you add up all the parts that we know, if you put these pieces together, that certainly is a possibility. Now, a caveat: I don\u2019t know how extensive the rebels are controlled by Al-Qaeda. Nobody does yet, but plenty of people are suggesting that Al-Qaeda is part of the rebel group. <\/p>\n

Now, today, I should add, ladies and gentlemen, the Khadafy forces are beating back the rebel forces — and this is news that I saw: “Rebels on the Run.” In fact, they\u2019re stickup up there, as the Drudge lead story headline: “Rebels on the Run.” So you have to wonder here if Obama had waited, would he have made the same speech this evening? Would he have even made a speech this evening? The headline now is “Rebels on the Run,” that means Khadafy\u2019s forcing them out. (interruption) What do you mean, it\u2019s impossible? (interruption) What…? (interruption) Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? (interruption) <\/p>\n

What, last night? (interruption) Obama said last night? That was last night. It was last night. He said last night, “The advances of Khadafy are stopped.” That\u2019s what he said last night. Today is a new day. The sun came up. As it always does. (interruption) No, he didn\u2019t say “mission accomplished.” Did not… (interruption) He didn\u2019t… (interruption) Yeah, but he didn\u2019t say “mission accomplished,” and they didn\u2019t have a banner, and he did not land on an aircraft carrier. So he did not say “mission accomplished.” <\/p>\n

He clearly indicated it might have been, but he might have waited for another nine days for the dust to settle, and it could well be that this is simply a one-day triumph of the Khadafy forces. The rebels could be on the run as a phony, fake retreat. We don\u2019t know. We don\u2019t know. It\u2019s “kinetic.” It\u2019s moving. There\u2019s a lot of action taking place. No war is happening. It is an unfortunate thing. Obama did pretty much say that we had stopped Khadafy, and now the rebels are on the run. So somebody\u2019s dissing our president. Somebody is certainly doing that. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Mike in St. Louis, welcome, sir, to the EIB Network. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thanks. You know, you were talking earlier about a woman who was saying that Obama\u2019s words are having a positive effect on the Middle East, I forget her name.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That was Samantha Power.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, you know, I agree that his words are having an effect on the Middle East, only I don\u2019t think that they\u2019re emboldening the freedom and democracy movement. I think that they\u2019re emboldening the anti-American movement rather.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, a lot of people agree with you. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Hm-hm.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You\u2019re right. They\u2019re setting the stage here for Obama\u2019s words are inspiring all of these uprisings against people like Mubarak and Khadafy. So they\u2019re setting the stage here, it\u2019s all BS, it\u2019s PR. Obama\u2019s so powerful, he\u2019s so inspirational. Obama\u2019s call for X, Y, and Z is forcing average Americans out of their homes to demand their freedom. That\u2019s what she meant. They\u2019re just trying to set the stage for 2012 reelection. Obama\u2019s found his voice on foreign policy. Obama carries the weight. He\u2019s a brilliant guy. Words are what made him the first time. We\u2019re going back to words making him the second time. The world is an aggressive place governed by the aggressive use of speeches, all this sort of stuff. So that\u2019s what she meant.<\/p>\n

CALLER: But, you know, I think that it\u2019s actually giving them strength. I mean I think it shows a lack of resolve and general incompetency.<\/p>\n

RUSH: How so?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, by the fact that nothing is really changing and he\u2019s handing over responsibilities to the UN and to these others, it shows a —<\/p>\n

RUSH: By design.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — lack of American resolve.<\/p>\n

RUSH: By design. Bye-bye American sovereignty. He didn\u2019t go to Congress. He didn\u2019t discuss this. He commits US military force without telling the American people, without going to Congress. Not that he needs their permission, but he didn\u2019t tell \u2019em, didn\u2019t bring them in on it. Just goes to the UN. There\u2019s some serious consequences here. Now, I know what you\u2019re saying. You think that Obama is inspiring anti-Americanism around the world because he apologizes for us and because he acknowledges our weaknesses and our past transgressions and so forth. You may have a point. A lot of people have this fear. He does not believe in American exceptionalism. He does not believe America is the solution to the world\u2019s problems and all of that. Anyway, I gotta take a break. I\u2019m glad you called. Thanks for holding on, I\u2019m just stuck here.<\/p>\n

END TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

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