this Andy Stern guy<\/a> and other people telling us, “This is what we need to be. We need to emulate the ChiComs. The ChiComs are doing it right.”<\/line><\/p>\nCALLER: Well, if he wants to emulate it then our Social Security payroll they\u2019re talking about, you know, reducing the payroll deduction. It would be 38 to 40% out of the employer, which is what it is in China. For every dollar or RMB we play a Chinese employee, 40 cents goes to the government in the form of payroll taxes.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Right. Well, they\u2019d love that! They\u2019d be all for that.<\/p>\n
CALLER: Your Social Security\u2019s very local such that, like in your case, having worked in New York City, if you\u2019d left New York City to go to Florida, then all of the Social Security benefits you woulda walked away from, and there\u2019s no guarantee that New York would have honored any of what you\u2019d paid in.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Of course not. That may well happen here anyway.<\/p>\n
CALLER: Well, I don\u2019t know. (sigh) I\u2019m just a little past 50, and ever since I\u2019ve been young I was told, “Don\u2019t depend on Social Security,” and I haven\u2019t, and it looks like that was some of the truest words ever spoken to me.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Why are you doing business in China?<\/p>\n
CALLER: Because I was hired to try and straighten out three factories that produce products for sale in the US, and they really don\u2019t have manufacturing expertise in China. You have to recognize, they don\u2019t have any upper-middle management people. Everybody that\u2019s in their forties to sixties were all caught up in the Cultural Revolution and never got really educated. They all got hauled off to the countryside to pick rice. So the entire economy\u2019s based on 35- to 20-year-olds that are all fresh out of school with very little experience.<\/p>\n
RUSH: And not paid very much.<\/p>\n
CALLER: About three — I guess in US terms they\u2019re paid about 350 to 400 bucks a month is what the current basic salary is for somebody who works in a factory.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Well, again, it all jibes with what people like Obama and Andy Stern would think is great. (interruption) Well, this talk about them overtaking us is a myth, too. There\u2019s so many lies being told about the United States\u2019 standing in the world. It is an absolute myth that this country, China, is gonna overtake us. The last I heard it was 2025. (interruption) 2017? Okay, in 2017 the ChiComs are gonna overtake us. (interruption) In what? (interruption) What? The world\u2019s biggest economy? (interruption) Well, world\u2019s biggest economy defined how? Are we gonna define it by standard of living or we gonna define it by output? How we gonna confine it? If that\u2019s the case, fine! If anybody wants to go there, move, if that\u2019s the future, if China\u2019s the future, why isn\u2019t there a trail?<\/p>\n
Why aren\u2019t there just mega trips to China, people going right now? Why aren\u2019t people investing their money in China? If all of this is true — and I\u2019m not trying to downplay the ChiComs, but — there\u2019s interesting piece here. Let me find this piece. You know, Rick Perry — and I have to admit, folks, when he first said this in a debate, I looked at Kathryn, and I said, “Oh, no, no! Oh, gosh.” I cringed. But it turned out not to hurt him, and in fact it might come back and help him. Rick Perry said that the ChiComs are gonna implode. Rick Perry said that the communist Chinese government will end up on the ash heap of history; and everybody said, “Oh, how stupid is this guy?” \u2019cause of course the myth is exactly what Snerdley believes. Snerdley says, “No, no, no! The Chinese are gonna take us over by 2017, maybe sooner. We\u2019re cooked!” <\/p>\n
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This is what I meant yesterday. You notice how seductive? Snerdley knows these people lie to him and he\u2019s sitting there, he\u2019s prepared to believe that the ChiComs are about to overtake us. How do you supposed to measure economies. One thing… (interruption) Oh, gosh. “How do you measure economies.” Do you really have to ask me that? You — you — (interruption) Of course it\u2019s every statistic, and who is making the reports? Who is making these reports and why do they make these reports? What\u2019s the purpose? Demoralize us, make us think our system doesn\u2019t work, make us think our system is the failure, that the ChiCom system better. That\u2019s what the president\u2019s doing, for crying out loud. You believe what he says? He says, “I wish I was running China. <\/line><\/p>\n
“You see how they can build buildings? You see how they got ready with the Olympics? You see all their great infrastructure? We can\u2019t build anything!” This is like Colonel Sanders saying, “Trust me with your chickens, I love \u2019em.” I want to go back to this Rick Perry business, because James Taranto (again, in his Wall Street Journal Best of The Web today): “Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson is in Red China, where his shoe-leather reporting has turned up evidence that . . . Republicans are stupid. Seriously, that\u2019s the subject of the first of what he promises will be several columns filed from Beijing. Let\u2019s examine his closing argument, which responds to a quote from Rick Perry: ‘But this ignores the big picture.<\/p>\n
“‘Yes, China is governed — in an authoritarian, repressive, at times shockingly brutal manner–by a regime that calls itself communist. But communism self-immolated two decades ago. Walk down any commercial street in Beijing and you see storefronts, venders and hawkers selling anything under the sun. Communism is no longer a system in China. It\u2019s just a brand name that officials haven\u2019t figured out how to ditch. I\u2019m aware, of course, of the shameful human rights violations that the Chinese government commits every day…'” Yeah: Hello, Walter Duranty Jr. Listen to this again. “Yes, China is governed — in an authoritarian, repressive, at times shockingly brutal manner–by a regime that calls itself communist.” They just call themselves that \u2019cause they haven\u2019t figured out how to “ditch” the brand.<\/p>\n
“I\u2019m aware, of course, of the shameful human rights violations” to go along with the “authoritarian, repressive, shockingly brutal regime,” and I\u2019m aware that they commit these rights violations “every day.” I\u2019m aware of “the government\u2019s selfish, corrupt insistence on maintaining a monopoly of power,” but this is not communism! “These atrocities can never be forgotten,” but I\u2019m here, and I see vendors, and that means they\u2019re not communists anymore. But they still brutalize people, and they put people in jail for their religious beliefs, and they violate human rights, but it\u2019s not communism, he says. “But I\u2019m betting,” writes Mr. Robinson, “that the burgeoning middle class will find a way to cast off these shackles.” How? “But I\u2019m betting that the burgeoning middle class…” Have you talked to the Falun Gong lately? Have you talked to the Tibetans? Have you talked to the Mongols? For crying out loud!<\/p>\n
And this is what passes for intelligence!<\/p>\n
Rick Perry\u2019s stupid; Eugene Robinson is brilliant. He\u2019s not through. “But I\u2019m betting that the burgeoning middle class will find a way to cast off these shackles,” which are communism but we don\u2019t call them that any more. “The correct response would be to cheer them on,'” the middle class. Taranto: “So, to recap: China\u2019s Communist Party has already abandoned communist economics for something that looks very much like American commercialism. Politically, however, it remains a brutal and corrupt one-party state. But that can\u2019t last. Robinson both thinks and hopes that the Chinese people will rise up and change the regime. OK, now here\u2019s the Perry quote: ‘I happen to think that the Communist Chinese government will end up on the ash heap of history.\u2019 Perry said the same thing Robinson did, only much more pithily and memorably.” (Brevity is the soul of wit.) “How does that make Robinson the smart one?” Eugene Robinson is Walter Duranty Jr. <\/p>\n
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RUSH: I think what the ChiComs are trying to do is what Gorbachev tried to do. Gorbachev tried to hold the Soviet Union together but he knew economically that country could not exist with a centrally planned economy. Command-and-control could not exist. They needed capitalism. They needed free market. So he tried to implement free markets, still call it communism, and this upset the Politburo, and there was an assassination attempt against Gorbachev — and he really fell upon disfavor in some media circles in this country for trying this, then he got it back \u2019cause they hated Reagan more. (interruption) Oh, oh, of course I do! Because they were trying to claim back at the time that Gorbachev was the savior of the planet, glasnost and perestroika!<\/p>\n
“This man is the vision we\u2019ve all been waiting for. We have Reagan, that old man. His finger is poised on the nuclear button! Gorbachev is great.”<\/p>\n
I\u2019m saying, “You guys, everybody is missing the boat. This guy is a flat-out communist with a capital C and he\u2019s trying to hold onto his country as a communist country by implementing a little economic reform here but the problem he\u2019s gonna have is you can\u2019t dole out our parcel out freedom. Once you give \u2019em a taste of it, that\u2019s it. Once you let \u2019em watch ‘Dallas\u2019 and once blue jeans are in the grocery stores and the department stores, it\u2019s over. Once all the lies that you\u2019ve been telling your people about the United States are known as lies, once your people find out you\u2019ve been lying to \u2019em, you\u2019ve lost \u2019em,” and it\u2019s exactly what happened. I took grief like you can\u2019t believe for this. The Gorbasm was when he arrived for the first summit with Reagan here. The Gorbasm was what happened when he got off the airplane. The State Department wimps, the media were all out there and Gorbachev got off the plane and…<\/p>\n
Yeah, Gorbasm, that\u2019s true. <\/p>\n
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RUSH: Charlie in Lavern, California, great to have you on the EIB Network. Welcome.<\/p>\n
CALLER: Thank you, Rush. It\u2019s an honor to speak with you.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/p>\n
CALLER: This article, I can\u2019t understand where the Wall Street Journal can give any kind of legitimacy to a man like Andy Stern. It\u2019s as if he believes that China\u2019s economy operates in a vacuum. There\u2019s a grisly article in the Weekly Standard today with several doctors from China who actually participated in the harvesting organs from political and religious dissidents in remote countryside areas where they were in these antiseptic vehicles parked right next to open ditches, and the bodies were brought in recently killed, and they just harvested the organs and threw the bodies in a ditch, and for Andy Stern to believe that an economy is effective —<\/p>\n
RUSH: How do you know that he didn\u2019t teach \u2019em that?<\/p>\n
CALLER: (laughing) Well, you\u2019re probably right about that! (laughing)<\/p>\n
RUSH: Well, who are we talking about here? Actually, I am glad that the Wall Street Journal published the thing. If it was in the Communist Party USA I woulda missed it. I\u2019m glad the Journal published it. You know, I had not seen the Weekly Standard story, but that doesn\u2019t surprise me, so the ChiComs get their political enemies, they wipe \u2019em out, and they harvest their organs for the party members. Look, this is not something that Andy Stern would find reprehensible. I don\u2019t know how to explain this. I know that sounds pretty extreme, but look: People who live in authoritarian, centrally planned governments who want that kind of concentrated power want it for a reason. When you\u2019ve got a guy who runs the SEIU who writes a column longing for the power — which is all this is — that leaders in communist countries have, then everything else goes. <\/p>\n
Don\u2019t think Andy Stern doesn\u2019t know stuff like that happened and don\u2019t think he doesn\u2019t know of the one child policy and the abortions that take place and all the other human rights violations. He knows exactly what\u2019s going on. That\u2019s why he likes it! Liberals are who they are. “Rush, you can\u2019t possibly believe that.” Yes, I do. Without a doubt. Now, I don\u2019t want you to misunderstand. I\u2019m not saying that Andy Stern would be in charge of the organ harvesting program set up by the Obama regime if they turn this place into China. That\u2019s not what I\u2019m saying. I\u2019m just telling you that when you have people who look at China and envy the power, and then you understand that there hasn\u2019t been a communist regime on earth that has not done things like that, how would Andy Stern\u2019s communist regime be any different? <\/p>\n
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Communism is what it is. <\/line><\/p>\n
Liberalism is what it is. <\/p>\n
Conservatism is what it is. <\/p>\n
Freedom is what it is. <\/p>\n
This is the problem. <\/p>\n
Who would have ever believed that we would have elected a president who could literally pass such a freedom-killing piece of legislation called Obamacare? Who would have believed that we would have elected a president who has purposely, systematically destroyed how many millions of jobs in the private sector for one reason, to grow the government (i.e., increase his own power)? It\u2019s happening right before our very eyes. The history of communism worldwide is well documented, as is the history of all of its apologists. The history of people who live in tyranny is also well documented, and it\u2019s happening around the world to this day. We\u2019ve always been the exception to that. But believe me: The history of the human race is not the United States. <\/p>\n
The history of the human race is more commonly found in tyrannical regimes. That\u2019s what\u2019s been so amazing about this country, and our existence has been in part to liberate as many people from those types of regimes as possible. So I don\u2019t… I\u2019m unable to sit here and say, “Well, you know, that kind of stuff I\u2019m sure Andy Stern doesn\u2019t know it goes on.” I don\u2019t know that. I would be forced to bet the other way. There isn\u2019t a person alive other than a deranged, uneducated college student — in other words, young, naive, maleducated, ill-educated person. There isn\u2019t a person alive of any age and maturity and power who is suggesting or promoting a communist-type government without knowing what it is. Because they know what it is is precisely why they love it. <\/p>\n
If you\u2019re having trouble believing this, then welcome to the club, \u2019cause I\u2019m like you. I don\u2019t understand how anybody can hate this country. I told you yesterday that I know it sounds na\u00c3\u00afve. I understand it, I know all of this. I hear think explanations, but I\u2019m telling you in my heart I don\u2019t understand how others in their hearts can hate this country<\/a>. It does not compute. But I know they do, and I take \u2019em seriously as to why — and Andy Stern is one who does. So if you think that all these kinds of atrocities couldn\u2019t happen, well, they couldn\u2019t happen here at one time, and they still can\u2019t, but for how long? I\u2019m sure the people that lived in Germany never thought what happened there was going to happen. Otherwise they woulda stopped it. But it was too late when they all figured it out. <\/p>\nThat\u2019s world human history, folks. That\u2019s been the norm. We are the exception, but only for 200-and-some-odd years. Human beings have been walking around for thousands of years, and the lone exception to that\u2019s been this country. Well, the Brits and so forth, but even in their history. So, yeah, I know it sounds odd, a little bit extreme here, but I don\u2019t want to give \u2019em even the chance to get close to it. People that want that kind of power over other individuals, red flags ought to go up with everybody. We\u2019ve got a history with Andy Stern. We know who he is, the things he believes in, the things he\u2019s said. These people have a history of undermining the whole notion of individual freedom and liberty in this country. It\u2019s just there. Some people that can\u2019t believe it so don\u2019t want to think about it. “No, those people aren\u2019t gonna win Rush. We don\u2019t have to worry about it. There are always gonna be fringe people.” Well, I never thought we\u2019d elect a president who would purposely destroy jobs. <\/p>\n
I never thought that would happen, but it has.<\/p>\n
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RUSH: Here\u2019s Josephine in Charleston, South Carolina. Joseph, it\u2019s great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello, sir.<\/p>\n
CALLER: Mega fellow talk show host dittos, Rush! How you doing today?<\/p>\n
RUSH: Very good, sir. Thanks.<\/p>\n
CALLER: I wanted to comment on what you were talking about before. They think basically… You talk about zero baseline budgeting. They\u2019re doing zero baseline socialism every year. They start off with a power base that they accrue and then once they\u2019ve got that they keep moving. Because, I mean, President Obama is a product of the Reagan administration. He was in the schools during that time. I can only imagine what they\u2019re producing now.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Yeah, well, he\u2019s openly talked about how his mission in life was to fix all the things that Reagan and his minions screwed up. He grew up hating Reagan, he grew up despising everything about him. That\u2019s what he was taught. But, you know, you have a got a point about this. People always say to me, “Rush, you can\u2019t be right about this, the liberals, everybody knows communism doesn\u2019t work.” No, no, no, no, no, no, no! You can say the same thing about liberalism. It doesn\u2019t work either. Look at Great Society, war on poverty, you name it. Everything they do falls apart, everything they do is never a solution. It just creates a new problem needing a new program! What they tell themselves is, “There nothing wrong with communism, nothing wrong with liberalism. It\u2019s just the right people haven\u2019t tried it yet,” or, “It hasn\u2019t been properly funded yet. Let us run it, and we can make it work,” and every new generation of bubbling-up young liberals thinks the same thing. Even now, I guarantee you, the Occupy people thin, “Okay, Obama blew it. The right people could pull this off; the right people could make it happen,” and therefore the dream stays alive.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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