{"id":15486,"date":"2012-06-06T18:40:10","date_gmt":"2012-06-06T18:40:10","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2012-06-06T18:40:10","modified_gmt":"2012-06-06T18:40:10","slug":"municipal_unions_and_pensions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2012\/06\/06\/municipal_unions_and_pensions\/","title":{"rendered":"Municipal Unions and Pensions"},"content":{"rendered":"

RUSH: Charlie as we head back to the phones. Charlie\u2019s from Cape Coral, Florida. Great to have you on the program. Hi, Charlie.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, how you doing, Rush? Mega dittos. Been a longtime listener, so long, in fact, I think I was in your inaugural class at the Limbaugh Institute.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I appreciate that. Thank you very much.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thank you for all your service that you\u2019ve done over the years. I\u2019ve got two real quick points. One was the main reason I called and begging your indulgence on a second quick point regarding the hypocrisy of these unions, both public service and the teachers and school unions. The first is, is that if we use their mantra and apply their mantra right back at \u2019em on your “pay your fair share” when asked to pay actually less than their fair share in contributing to their retirement programs and the like, you hear nothing but them squealing like stuck pigs out there. It\u2019s okay if it applies to you, but do as we say, but not as we —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, see, the difference is they don\u2019t consider themselves in the 1%. Snerdley, what happened to that guy from Bakersfield that was gonna give me grief? He hung up? Darn it. We had a guy from Bakersfield who said that I am doing irreparable damage to police unions, municipal employees who are cops and firefighters, \u2019cause they\u2019re conservatives and I\u2019m ticking them off by lumping them in. Well, I have to address that in the next half hour. See, the bottom line here Charlie is the people we\u2019re talking about don\u2019t think they\u2019re in the 1%. They don\u2019t think they\u2019re getting their fair share even now, is the whole point. So when you hit \u2019em up with, “How about paying your fair share?” No, no, no. It\u2019s a sense of entitlement that many of them have simply because they think they\u2019re being taken advantage of to start with.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

Now, Snerdley, we had a call from Bakersfield, California, right? (interruption) It was Bakersfield. Was it a cop or…? (interruption) He was a cop. This is troubling. I lost sleep over this in the break at the bottom of the hour. Well, I didn\u2019t sleep in the break. I\u2019m gonna lose sleep over it tonight. I was thinking about it. The guy said, “Look,” and I guess he couldn\u2019t hang on. “You are…” What did he say? What were his exact words on the phone? (interruption)<\/p>\n

I\u2019m “driving away police officers who are ultraconservatives who are members of municipal unions.” He may have a point. I have not been distinguishing. See, here\u2019s my problem. Well, I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s a problem, but I respect the intelligence the audience. I assume that people understand that, to me, this is a left-right issue. It\u2019s not anti-union, per se. I mean, if you want to join a union, go right ahead. Some jobs you have to, such as being a cop. You have to join. Most of those jobs are unionized.<\/p>\n

First of all, I don\u2019t think I\u2019m driving them away. I think they\u2019re smart enough to know what\u2019s going on here. I think… (interruption) (laughing) Snerdley\u2019s looking at me like, “Are you sure about that?” (laughing) I\u2019m not talking… (interruption) What do you mean I\u2019m talking their paychecks? What do you mean? I am not suggesting we do away with their pensions. (interruption) Yes, they do! (sigh) There\u2019s not one cop union member who thinks I\u2019m against his pension.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s not one cop.<\/p>\n

As you said, the guy could have been a rabble-rouser. But… (interruption) No, I can understand that. This is one of the problems talking about this stuff, \u2019cause not every union member is a liberal. The union leaders are. And the people who take their dues are. And the people who give their dues away as campaign donations are liberal. But, the mathematics is the mathematics. And if the money isn\u2019t there, then the promise to pay lifetime pension and health care can\u2019t be met. If the money isn\u2019t there, the promise doesn\u2019t mean anything.<\/p>\n

There have to be adjustments made.<\/p>\n

People do it all the time.<\/p>\n

The Wisconsin <\/a>crowd wanted to be exempt from it. That\u2019s what the fight was about. And nobody was talking about doing away with the pensions. They\u2019re just saying you gotta pay 5% towards it. I don\u2019t even have a pension. I don\u2019t even have health care! It\u2019s not that it\u2019s denied me, I just choose not to. I don\u2019t have a pension! I\u2019ve always assumed I have to take care of that myself. I would be living on eggshells if I had laid off all that responsibility on other people. ‘Cause I don\u2019t have nearly the confidence in them to come through as I would in myself.<\/p>\n

But I understand the precarious nature of this and the fear people have, \u2019cause it\u2019s always all about the money. And people in this fight, if they don\u2019t listen carefully, can think somebody wants to take their money away from them. That\u2019s what the union leaders want the rank-and-file to believe, is that Republicans want to take away their pensions and Republicans to want take away their health care. And that\u2019s not true at all. It\u2019s just, we\u2019ve reached a point in time where we don\u2019t have the money.<\/p>\n

We just don\u2019t have it!<\/p>\n

I gotta have faith, Snerdley, that these cops that this guy is talking about are self-reliant individuals, anyway. By definition. (interruption) What do you mean fi…? (interruption) What do you mean you\u2019ve always thought the same thing about firefighters and look at that union? (interruption) What? (interruption) We haven\u2019t said anything about the firefighters! (interruption) The firefighters union can\u2019t stand it? Well, that\u2019s the firefighters\u2019 problem. I\u2019m not even talking about the firefighters! You\u2019re bringing up the firefighters. I\u2019m trying to keep it focused on the cops.<\/p>\n

Anyway, let me grab one more before we have to take the break.<\/p>\n

Gary in Buffalo. Thank you four calling, sir. It\u2019s great to have you on the program.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Honor to speak with you again.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: As a taxpayer, what I saw in the run-up to the election was the following. I saw unions, Communist Party USA, the Socialist Party USA, the anarchists, and the professional poor — along with the Democrats — marching arm in arm against me, The taxpayer. That\u2019s what I saw. None of those people like America. Most of them want this country and its capitalistic system, which made them successful, destroyed. And they were marching against me.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And you are the one paying them! You are the one paying them. When they march against the country and you, they\u2019re marching against the people who pay them. Right? That\u2019s what you\u2019re saying.<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly. And I\u2019m tired of it, and I think that everybody\u2019s tired of it. And the people of Wisconsin <\/a>were obviously tired of it.<\/p>\n

RUSH: The only change in Wisconsin… Well, not the only. But one of the changes was that when it came to health insurance, they were being asked to pay 12.5% toward the cost.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Cry me a river. Walk in my shoes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, what —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Taxpayers pay the bills, and everyone\u2019s forgotten it.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah. Or they never thought about it in the first place.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, the taxpayers are suddenly realizing what\u2019s going on. And, you know, there used to be a time when I was younger that Communist Party USA wasn\u2019t really a good thing. It didn\u2019t mean happiness. It wasn\u2019t a smiley face.<\/p>\n

RUSH: How old do you think the public sector unions are? How long have we had \u2019em? Do you know? I do. Do you know?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I do not.<\/p>\n

RUSH: In 1959, municipal, public sector unions in Wisconsin were born. In 1959. So what did they do before that?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Like everybody else did, they got along.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I don\u2019t know. But —<\/p>\n

CALLER: They made their own way. They relied on rugged individualism and rose as their skills and minds let them rise. You remember those days?<\/p>\n

RUSH: They\u2019re still alive as far I\u2019m concerned.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Sorry. I\u2019m just a little angry about all this.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I know. A lot of people are, especially when you\u2019re out there being ripped as somebody not paying your fair share. You\u2019re out there being blamed for all the deficits. You\u2019re being blamed for the fiscal mess. And then you hear —<\/p>\n

CALLER: I pay my fair share, trust me.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Pardon me?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I pay my fair share, trust me. And so do all of the taxpayers out there — you know, the people who pay the bills?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah. Yeah. And then some, I\u2019d say. All right. Well, look, Gar\u2019. Gar\u2019, I\u2019m glad you called.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Have a good day.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I appreciate it. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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