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RUSH: Okay, now back to the phones we go, and it\u2019s to Philadelphia. Joe, great to have you on the program, sir. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi. How are you, Rush?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Very well. Thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Long-time listener, I\u2019ve been listening since \u201992. I\u2019ve never called before, but I was watching Rock Center with Brian Williams last night — a mistake I don\u2019t usually make (chuckles) — and Ted Koppel was doing the report on NBC News, of all places, on network bias in the news.<\/a><\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019ve got some audio sounds bites from this, and it\u2019s worse that that. The segment also included a feature on talk radio and how it “incites,” and yours truly was mentioned.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: I was called an “assassin” by Bill O\u2019Reilly. I\u2019ve got the sound bites here. Me, Hannity, Levin all called assassins, and said to be inciting people. Bill Maher made the comment. O\u2019Reilly said he agrees with that kind of thinking and so forth. Yeah, I wasn\u2019t even gonna play the sound bites. You brought it up, so now I may as well play \u2019em.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, you want to play \u2019em now?<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, I will. You just reminded me. Is that it? What else did you call about?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I just was calling because I thought the whole thing was just so laughable that the most-biased network of all would have the guts to run a story like that. And then when he\u2019s talking to Ann Coulter, Ted Koppel actually says to her, “Well, you gotta admit, the New York Times isn\u2019t bad. That\u2019s a good newspaper.” I almost fell out of my chair when he said that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, nah, that shouldn\u2019t surprise you, that Koppel would love the New York Times.<\/p>\n

CALLER: It doesn\u2019t surprise me. I don\u2019t know. He just seemed to be really throwing it in our face.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, of course.<\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s like they don\u2019t have a problem doing that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: We are the one element of the media that hasn\u2019t fallen in line. We\u2019re the one element of the media, and certain places at Fox, that haven\u2019t fallen in line. And, as such, we\u2019re looked at as dangerous renegades. But I agree with you. I think it\u2019s laughable for, of all places, NBC to be worrying about media bias and this kind of thing. They asked us… Joe, thanks for the call. HR told me months ago that Ted Koppel had called him and asked me to participate in this.<\/p>\n

I made the decision not to appear on it, just like I\u2019ve made the decision that I\u2019m not gonna appear on any of these networks for anything about anything, anytime. There is no reason to. They\u2019re not interested in what I have to say. They don\u2019t care about what I have to say. That\u2019s not their purpose in asking me on. It makes no business sense (and it\u2019s not enjoyable, so there\u2019s no fun in it). So there\u2019s no reason to do it. I didn\u2019t not do it because it was Koppel. I just did it \u2019cause it was NBC.<\/p>\n

Why do it, specially with this premise?<\/p>\n

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Why go on where the assumption is that I\u2019m guilty and somehow I have to defend myself against some allegation out there? I don\u2019t know who else they\u2019re gonna be talking to on tape. They\u2019ll go out and play whatever I say, and then get people to react to it. I used to have a good relationship with Ted Koppel back in the late eighties\/early nineties. I was on Nightline now and then, and we had a falling out over something Barney Frank said. I forget totally what it was now, but it hasn\u2019t been the same since.<\/p>\n

Ted and I had a falling out, and it just has not been the same. (interruption) Oh, I know what it was. He apologized to me privately for something. I had been maligned on the show by a guest, and he apologized privately, and I mentioned his apology on the air, and he thought that was a betrayal. I thought the apology should have been in public. The insult happened on his show; why not the apology? He thought that was betrayal, and we haven\u2019t spoken since, until HR gets this call.<\/p>\n

“Hey, NBC\u2019s doing this thing for the campaign. It\u2019s gonna be in September, October, blah, blah.” I said, “I\u2019m sorry, don\u2019t try to talk me into it. I\u2019m going nowhere near it.” So, let\u2019s grab sound bites 29, 30, 31, and 32. Cookie gave me this for a reason. I don\u2019t know why, but when I hear it all, I might. This is what I said Monday about the arrest of the guy who did the video. This is supposed to have incited the attacks on the US embassies in Egypt and Libya<\/a>. Susan Rice <\/a>had been out there on Sunday making this point. Obama and Hillary, to this day, are still apologizing to countries in the Middle East for this video.<\/p>\n

Again, I ask you: Why in the world, when your ambassador is killed by these people, would you exonerate the terrorists? Why would you go out of your way not to blame the people who did it? Why would you want to give them a pass by blaming some Internet video<\/a>? And, of course, we answered that in the first hour. But let\u2019s go back. Let\u2019s play what I said. I don\u2019t know if this is a factor in what they said last night or not, but there\u2019s a reason this is here. I just got these so I haven\u2019t had a chance to read \u2019em or understand what it is. We\u2019re gonna hear \u2019em together for the first time.<\/p>\n

RUSH ARCHIVE: The guy was rounded up. He was pulled out of his house at 1:30 in the morning by sheriff\u2019s deputies. He was taken in and interviewed, supposedly for a parole violation or what have you. It was left to no speculation whatsoever that this video caused all this. We\u2019ve all been manipulated, and I\u2019m telling you that my theory is the reason that this has happened is this is a campaign aid. This was designed as part of the Obama campaign. It does two things. It makes this guy who did the movie…<\/p>\n

What is he? He\u2019s a Coptic CHRISTIAN. What is he? Intolerant! What is he doing? Making fun of Islamists<\/a>! What does he do? Cause violence! All of this is filling in a cliche or a brand or an image. The purpose of this is to make it impossible to support a guy like Romney. Romney\u2019s a Mormon but he\u2019s intolerant, Republican, racist, sexist, bigot, all of this stuff. It\u2019s designed to suppress the Romney vote. It\u2019s designed to dispirit the Romney vote. It is designed to make liberals and Obama look like the compassionate big-hearted, understanding, tolerant.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: Okay. So I said that on Monday, and I guess it\u2019s a See, I Told You So<\/a>, because Obama\u2019s still apologizing in the Middle East for this guy and his video. There, I\u2019m just explaining why. Now, I don\u2019t know that that\u2019s got anything to do with what comes next, but it doesn\u2019t hurt to have aired it \u2019cause it is still a See, I Told You So. This is Rock Center last night on NBC, Special Correspondent Ted Koppel\u2019s report about “civility and media.” Ann Coulter is in this, and Bill O\u2019Reilly. and me. We\u2019ve got three of these, and here\u2019s the first of them.<\/p>\n

KOPPEL: O\u2019Reilly is loud and frequently over the top, but —<\/p>\n

COULTER: Obama is a liar.<\/p>\n

RUSH ARCHIVE: The nuns have gone feminazi on everybody.<\/p>\n

KOPPEL: The bar for civility on cable television and talk radio has fallen so low that, by comparison, O\u2019Reilly seems almost reasonable. [to O\u2019Reilly] Talk about the folks who take it too far. You and I had a phone conversation couple of weeks ago. You used a term that really resonated with me. You called a couple of people “assassins.”<\/p>\n

O\u2019REILLY: Sure. You can make money by assassinating people that differ from you. You can make money speaking to the choir. The haters.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, now, who do you think O\u2019Reilly\u2019s talking about there? (laughing) Snerdley, “I know who he\u2019d better not be talking about.” Well, who else could he be talking about? “You mentioned a couple of names to me, Bill.” Obama\u2019s a liar, is that uncivil? Ann Coulter said Obama\u2019s a liar, is that uncivil? What did they say about Bush? I wonder if Ted ran any of these comments about Bush that people like Bill Maher made or anybody else on the left, I wonder if he ran any of those comments by these policemen of the civility discourse and I wonder what they thought of that. Or is this just a one-way street? <\/p>\n

And, by the way, the nuns have gone feminazi on everybody? You talk about taking something out of context. But wasn\u2019t O\u2019Reilly doing character assassination here by calling people assassins? And of course Koppel ate it up. You heard Koppel, (imitating Koppel) “Oh, man, you said something that fully resonated with me. You called a couple of people assassins.” Here\u2019s the next bite, and this is, again, Ted Koppel, we got Steny Hoyer and Bill Maher in this bite.<\/p>\n

HOYER: Today\u2019s journalists too often, because it\u2019s profitable to do so and it builds audiences, see their job not to inform but to incite, to get people riled up, to get their juices running.<\/p>\n

MAHER: The people who wake up to AM radio and listen to Rush Limbaugh at lunch and Sean Hannity at dinner and only have Fox News on, they live in a world outside of facts.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, aside from the fact that that\u2019s not true, what business is it of… there\u2019s a First Amendment, there\u2019s the free speech. What this is about is the latest effort to try to drum up support for shutting down speech that you don\u2019t like, and that\u2019s why the focus on the video, by the way. There were stories in the LA Times just this past week, “You know, maybe criticizing a religion is outside the bounds of the First Amendment. Maybe criticizing Islam is outside the First Amendment.” Of course Steny Hoyer here, today\u2019s journalists, it\u2019s profitable to incite. So you see what this whole theme now is, is that talk radio incites, that we are intolerant, and you bring in guys like Steny Hoyer of the American left to carry this forward. <\/p>\n

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And, finally, this is Brian Williams with Koppel talking about the report. Brian Williams said, “As one of the three remaining practitioners of the kindly evening newscast genre, first, do you think any of this has splashed up against what we do for a living? And second, is it baked into our society?” So I guess he\u2019s asking, “Ted, all this rotgut assassination type media out there, has it hurt us, Ted, has it hurt us? Has it harmed what we do for a living, Ted, or is it baked into the society now?”<\/p>\n

KOPPEL: Yes, on both counts. What works about cable television is it\u2019s cheap and it makes a ton of money. There is nothing cheaper than a bunch of talking heads, and the people who hire those talking heads have discovered that the more irascible, the more partisan, the nastier they are, the bigger an audience they get. Yes, it has an impact on us, and the only way it\u2019s ever gonna change is if the audience says, “You know something, I\u2019m tired of it.”<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, did MSNBC come under their microscope? Hm-hm. If these guys don\u2019t like what I have to say, why don\u2019t they just riot? Isn\u2019t that what they do in the civilized world, just riot. Harry Reid called Bush a liar. Harry Reid has tried to get me taken off the air. What was Harry Reid tried to incite when he called Bush a liar? All the people that called Bush Hitler, chimpy, all this kind of stuff. Anyway, I wasn\u2019t gonna play that stuff for you, but the caller talked about it, and he was curious how could NBC, of all people, be doing a special report on bias in the media and not finding any where they are. So that\u2019s that. <\/line>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: Speaking of civility, do you believe this has come back again? Obama gets this started after Gabby Giffords. Who was it who called Mitt Romney a felon<\/a>? It would be Stephanie Cutter <\/a>of the Obama campaign, right? Who was it that called Romney a murderer<\/a>? Who said that Romney stood idly by while some steelworker\u2019s wife died? Who tried to make the connection to Romney and some guy\u2019s death? Wouldn\u2019t that be the Obama campaign? I tell you, my friends, what it all means is that the daily drivel and bilge that you see is not true. If these people were so on top of the world, and if what they were doing was winning so big, we wouldn\u2019t be any more than a bunch of gnats. Talk radio, Fox News, wouldn\u2019t matter a hill of beans to \u2019em. But we are still profoundly effective, and that is what bothers them. <\/p>\n

Now, even if we were just a bunch of gnats, they\u2019d still try to squish us just because that\u2019s who they are. But they\u2019re worried. They\u2019re not amused. They\u2019re not just irritated. They\u2019re worried. All this stuff about Obama running away with this and Romney\u2019s imploded and Romney doesn\u2019t have a chance, don\u2019t buy it. And they know it. They know they\u2019re running a rigged game, and they know they\u2019re cheating, and they know this isn\u2019t a level playing field. They know they\u2019re rigging their polls. <\/p>\n

Looky here. “Sixty percent of Americans have little or no faith in the media to report the news accurately and fairly, according to a Gallup Poll, and 40 percent trust them a fair amount or a great deal. Three-fifths of Americans distrust the mass media — an all-time high, according to a poll released Thursday. … In 2011, 55 percent of Americans were distrustful.” Today, one year later, 60%. So you might say, “Well, Rush, wait a minute. If it\u2019s true, then how come Romney <\/a>isn\u2019t ahead by 60\/40? The two don\u2019t necessarily follow.” But what does follow is that if 60% of Americans have little or no faith in the media to report accurately, it could well mean that what the media is reporting in these polls is not anywhere near true. <\/p>\n

If people don\u2019t believe the media by 60 to 40%, then they\u2019re not gonna believe by 60 to 40% all of the crap that\u2019s being said about Obama and how wonderful he is and how he\u2019s trying and the economy\u2019s not bad. People aren\u2019t buying it. It may not be reflected in the polls in these percentages, but let\u2019s wait for Election Day, or let\u2019s wait for the polls in the last week, leading up to the election. These people in the media know they don\u2019t have their monopoly anymore. They\u2019re worried about their ability to move public opinion on a mass basis the way they used to, and their day is now given to daily demonstrations to themselves of their power. <\/p>\n

They write news for each other. They do TV and radio reports for each other. They do magazine articles for each other to read, not for their audiences. They have the biggest disconnect, and that\u2019s what this poll shows. The mainstream media today has the biggest disconnect with its audience that it\u2019s ever, ever had. And as the disconnect grows and as more and more people distrust them, then the media digs in more and more and says you don\u2019t know what you\u2019re talking about, you don\u2019t know how we do our jobs, you don\u2019t know what\u2019s important. They\u2019re the only business in America the customer is always wrong. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Sheila in Mattoon, Illinois. Great to have you, and I\u2019m glad you waited. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, Rush, thank you so much for taking my call! I have talked to you at the radio for years, but now I actually get a response.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: (chuckling)<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you very much.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Listen, why I called was, this morning I was listening to Martha MacCallum, and she was interviewing a reporter in Pakistan. And, of course, they were using the video as their rationale. But Martha pressed her after saying she thought it was off, and the gal actually admitted that the film probably had not been seen but had been heard about. Well, my theory is —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait, wait, wait just a second here.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: I need to ask you a question. You were an eyewitness to this?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I was watching, yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Martha MacCallum?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, Martha MacCallum.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, I need to ask you this because of that report on NBC last night.<\/p>\n

CALLER: (chuckling)<\/p>\n

RUSH: Was Martha MacCallum attempting…? Because that\u2019s Fox News!<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Was she attempting to incite anybody or anything with this deeply probing question? Was she berating this poor Pakistani woman? You said she “pressed” her.<\/p>\n

CALLER: She did.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Did she effectively have her up against a wall and was slapping her back and forth to get her to get the answer she wanted?<\/p>\n

CALLER: She wasn\u2019t close enough! The gal was in Pakistan.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh. Well!<\/p>\n

CALLER: Here\u2019s what happened. After she pressed her she admitted that probably it had just been heard about, and that might have been causing the riot. My question was:<\/line>“Well, who did they hear it from first?” Let\u2019s see, Susan Rice, Jay Carney, Obama, Hillary Clinton.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: Exactly.<\/p>\n

CALLER: So who spread it?<\/p>\n

RUSH: They haven\u2019t seen it, and the woman in Pakistan admitted that nobody seen it. All they\u2019ve done is heard about it! I\u2019ll tell you where I first heard about it was when the Cairo embassy apologized.<\/p>\n

CALLER: But to your point earlier — and I\u2019m so glad I had a chance to hang on — Carney, Rice, are they informing or they inciting? That\u2019s my question.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, that is a brilliant question, because I\u2019m gonna tell you what: I think they\u2019re inciting.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I do, too.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I think Obama incited at the Democrat convention when he starts bragging about killing bin Laden 21 times. I think they are inciting. I think Ted Koppel (if he had any guts), if he wants to talk about who\u2019s inciting who and what? You take a look at this administration saying how all this activity in the Middle East, this uprising, is due to some video. Who is it inciting? You are exactly right. Who\u2019s telling everybody about the video, and who is characterizing the video as something horrible, and who\u2019s bragging about killing bin Laden<\/a>?<\/p>\n

CALLER: So, Rush, in essence, I mean, this is gonna sound radical, who has blood on their hands?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, well —<\/p>\n

CALLER: I mean, really.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, but it only sounds radical because you\u2019re asking the question on talk radio.<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s probably it. And you know, and another quick one \u2019cause I don\u2019t want to monopolize here. It\u2019s taken me like 20-some years to get a hold of you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You\u2019re not monopolizing. It\u2019s up to me. You\u2019re still on \u2019cause I want you to be. I still gotta light my cigar anyway, so go ahead.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, and then another one, of course, that radical Fox News that I was watching. She was talking to Ryan Crocker, he\u2019s a former US ambassador to Afghanistan and Iraq, I think.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And when she was talking to him, again, about the video aspect and so forth, I thought he had a brilliant comment, and it was very controlled, but he said, “simplistic explanations of the Middle East are almost always wrong.”<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yep. Look, I think what\u2019s happening, Sheila, all of this, everything that\u2019s happening in this regard is part of the campaign. And this is the great disgust. This is the great indictment of Barack Obama. All of this is really being manipulated and used as a campaign issue. It\u2019s not even about foreign policy. That\u2019s playing second fiddle to the value all of this has in the campaign. American foreign policy playing second fiddle, secondary, tertiary status to Obama\u2019s campaign. That\u2019s the real disgusting thing about this. Well, you\u2019re great. You joined the parade of absolutely fabulous callers that we\u2019ve had this week, and I thank you. That\u2019s Sheila, Mattoon, Illinois, we gotta go. Thanks, Sheila. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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