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\"Listen<\/a>\nRUSH: This is A.J., San Francisco. A.J., thank you for holding. Great to have out program. Hello.<\/p>\nCALLER: Yes, I had a question Rush. On your Friday show you took a call and you said that if the GOP passes the immigration law, it\u2019s the end of the GOP, they\u2019d be dead. On yesterday\u2019s show you took a call from somebody and you said that Marco Rubio is a true conservative, basically we should still support him. So my question to you is, how can we support somebody who is sponsoring a bill that will kill the GOP?<\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nRUSH: Well, I don\u2019t think that\u2019s what he thinks he\u2019s doing, number one. You know, you\u2019re putting me in a bit of a bind here \u2019cause I\u2019ll just tell you, I think — whew. I think Senator Rubio is a little naive on the immigration stuff, and I also know that this bill is not intended to pass. You cannot take that out of the equation. I\u2019ll tell you something else. I\u2019m glad you actually got through here, A.J. I know you thought it was stump the host day. But you\u2019re gonna help me look really good here, which is the purpose of a caller anyway. <\/p>\nMarco Rubio has so artfully positioned himself on this bill. It\u2019s a Gang of Eight. He controls four of \u2019em. Marco Rubio has it within his power to make or break this bill, because the Democrats and Chuck-U Schumer have allowed him to become the face of it. He has played this, I think, artfully well. He\u2019s got an opportunity here to demand everything he wants on this and to hold out if he doesn\u2019t get it. Now, he\u2019s gotta do that, but I think he\u2019s in a catbird seat if he wants it. I\u2019m not saying he does. I don\u2019t know that he\u2019s looking at it this way. This is my interpretation of this from afar, but I think he\u2019s in a pretty decent situation. The reason I say he\u2019s a force, there\u2019s no question this guy is one of the few real conservatives in elected office today, folks. There\u2019s no question about that.<\/p>\nBREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\nRUSH: Marco Rubio has said repeatedly — and he\u2019s a good person — he only wants what he thinks is the best for our country. I don\u2019t question secret motives, intentions of any deceptive kind where he\u2019s concerned. <\/p>\nRUSH: Now, let me address this Rubio stuff because the staff on the other side of the glass is very concerned that the headline in about five minutes on every website in the world is gonna be: “Limbaugh: Rubio Naive on Immigration.” In the first place, let me say at the outset that Senator Rubio and I are friends. We know each other and we communicate somewhat regularly. So these efforts that are underway or might be underway to drive a wedge between Senator Rubio and me simply will not work.<\/p>\nThere was a story last week. I don\u2019t remember the details of it, but it was essentially that I had been highly critical and was ripping Senator Rubio. His staff called me and said, “We know that\u2019s not true. We know that\u2019s not what happened. We know that\u2019s not what you said. We got it,” and the same thing here on this immigration business. Folks, I\u2019m not gonna backtrack from what I said. If we grant amnesty — and Rubio does not support amnesty.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nHe\u2019s never come out and said he\u2019s for amnesty. If we do amnesty for 11 million or more illegal aliens, I\u2019m telling you, it\u2019s the end of the Republican Party are. And it isn\u2019t just me saying so. The Politico ran that story 10 days ago. It\u2019s mathematics. That\u2019s all it is, and it\u2019s all I ever said it is. I\u2019ve asked Senator Rubio about this. That\u2019s what it was. There was supposedly a report about how I really raked Rubio over the coals in his interview here and how he was mad at me over something<\/p>\nThey called and said, “Look, we know that\u2019s not what happened,” and it wasn\u2019t. I forget the express details. But it\u2019s simply a matter of mathematics. The voting percentages, polling data indicate that 70% of the Hispanic vote\u2019s gonna vote Democrat no matter what. McCain has even said that if we did amnesty tomorrow, it\u2019s not gonna get us a single Hispanic vote. But what it is gonna do is put us in the game. Right now we\u2019re not in the game, he thinks.<\/p>\nWe don\u2019t have a chance to compete for their minds and hearts because they think we want \u2019em deported. I said, “That\u2019s a crock.” We don\u2019t need immigration to reform to compete for the minds and hearts of any voter. We don\u2019t need to pass a law tomorrow before we can compete for anybody. We can go get votes. We can campaign. We can take our message to anybody or any group we want. We don\u2019t need a piece of legislation first.<\/p>\nBut full-fledged amnesty is the end of the Republican Party, and I asked Senator Rubio, “Look, why would we want to do something that the Democrat Party is salivating over?” The Democrats want amnesty so bad they can taste it, because they know what it would mean. It would mean a number of new Democrats automatically that we simply can\u2019t compete with no matter what we do. That\u2019s why they are so eager for it! There was an AP piece three days ago: “Rush Limbaugh, Marco Rubio Show GOP Rift Over Immigration Reform.”<\/p>\n(interruption) No. Ted Cruz was attacked by Republicans for participating in the gun filibuster. Republicans were yelling at him and saying mean things. You want courage? Try being Dr. Benjamin Carson. That\u2019s real courage. Now, I\u2019ve said that I think Senator Rubio is a little naive here. Let me explain to you what I mean by that. Senator Rubio, when you listen to him — and I\u2019ve said this before. This is all repetition, but I\u2019ll do it again. Senator Rubio is a young guy. He just got elected to the Senate.<\/p>\nThis was supposed to be Charlie Crist\u2019s seat. It was way too early for Senator Rubio. He wasn\u2019t supposed to be here yet. You listen to him, and he has — and this is good, by the way. He has an enthusiasm for conservatism that anybody new to let scene has. His attitude is, “Okay, maybe we\u2019re in trouble, but I\u2019m here now, and I\u2019m conservative, and I\u2019ve got the ability to convince anybody.” He brings that to the table. We need that!<\/p>\nToo many elected Republicans today are backing away from conservatism. They\u2019re afraid of it because of how the left attacks anybody who is. Senator Rubio\u2019s undaunted by that. He\u2019s not afraid of it. When I say he\u2019s naive, I don\u2019t mean about immigration. I think… Maybe “na\u00c3\u00afve” is not even the right word for it. I just think that he\u2019s not quite… How do I say this? He\u2019s willing to give liberals a much bigger benefit of the doubt than I would, based on my experiences with \u2019em.<\/p>\n<\/p>\nIf I was asked to a meeting of a bunch of liberal senators, and they were trying to persuade me to agree with them on immigration? (snorts) I\u2019m sorry. I\u2019d take the meeting, but I would be suspicious of it. There\u2019s no way that I would get or be persuaded by them. I know them too well. But he\u2019s got this new enthusiasm. He\u2019s arrived here and he thinks he can do anything — and that\u2019s good, and maybe he can. I do think now that Senator Rubio, in this Gang of Eight arrangement, is actually in a really good and unique position, since they have made him the face of it.<\/p>\nSchumer and the boys pushed him out as the face of it because the theory was, “Let\u2019s get a conservative out there who ostensibly wants what we want, and it\u2019ll make it harder for people in his party to oppose him, \u2019cause he\u2019s got presidential ambitions, and nobody wants to cut those short. Nobody on the right wants to take Marco Rubio out, so let\u2019s use him.” It\u2019s a way to stifle any criticism of the Gang of Eight for putting him out there. He knows this. He\u2019s fully aware of it.<\/p>\nYou know, Marco Rubio, from his own experience, that of his family, isn\u2019t as worried about immigrants willingly becoming underclass, happy to live on government benefits, as some of us are. The Democrat Party is counting on the fact that the vast majority of these illegals are just gonna become immediate wards of the state. That\u2019s what they want them to be. Now, Rubio… You\u2019ve read the story. His father is from Cuba. His father sacrificed everything. There is nothing ward-of-the-state-like in any aspect of Rubio\u2019s experience or his life.<\/p>\nYou\u2019d have to say Rubio, he\u2019s Latino, Hispanic, however you define these things. He\u2019s from Cuba, and he believes, because of his own experience, that people like him can be reached. He believes, because of his own experience, that the conservative message is exactly what these people can be persuaded to support. I admire that. That kind of enthusiasm is needed. That kind of excitement and positive nature is needed. How else would any conservative have any say in Congress\u2019 push for immigration? It was inevitable, and he\u2019s positioned himself here brilliantly.<\/p>\nNow, when I brought up that the immigrants legalized would not be supporters of the Republicans electorally, I mentioned all this to him. I\u2019m not saying anything here I haven\u2019t said to him, privately and in interviews on this program. He allowed that most would likely vote Democrat. He said and believed that they could be won by campaigning for them on the strength of the conservative message. And his point was compelling, about not fixing immigration for political reasons. The GOP will lose if they\u2019re doing this for political reasons. He said that right on this program. He said it\u2019s not in the best interests of the country. And Republicans are doing it for political purposes. The Republicans are totally convinced that the only way that they\u2019re ever gonna get more of the Hispanic vote — I can\u2019t emphasize to you how much the Republican establishment really believes they lost the election because of the Hispanic vote. <\/p>\nNow, we heard yesterday, there\u2019s a new Pew survey or some survey, everybody believes it, that what really lost Romney the election was the white turnout, something we have been stating on this program since the election, by the way. The real question, why did the white vote stay home? If the percentages of the white vote and the black vote in 2008 had been replicated in 2012, so goes this report, Romney likely would have won. The difference wasn\u2019t the Hispanic vote. The difference was the white vote. So now we must ask why did they sit home? <\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nNow, there are some who believe that the white voters that didn\u2019t vote for Romney stayed home because of me and talk radio during the primary. They believe that people like me during the Republican primaries were so insistent that Romney just be a full-fledged card-carrying conservative, that\u2019s when he wasn\u2019t, that we inspired the white vote to stay home. I think that is a crock. I\u2019ll tell you what is going on, in my humble opinion. I think the white voters that did vote in \u201908, didn\u2019t vote in 2012, are middle class voters who are listening to all the rhetoric coming out of Washington and they\u2019re convinced that nobody gives a rat\u2019s rear end about them. We gotta do this for that group. We gotta do that for that group. <\/p>\nWe\u2019ve got an economy crumbling. In 2012 we had an economy crumbling — middle class white working — the Obama campaign gave up on them. You remember that column that came out in November of 2011 by Thomas B. Edsall<\/a>. I\u2019ve quoted that thing thousands of times, where the Obama campaign wrote off the white working class vote. They knew they had already lost them. They\u2019re the bitter clingers. I think they probably thought, with all this other talk about doing this for that group and this, I think they\u2019re conservative to an extent, they\u2019re never gonna vote Obama, but I don\u2019t think they didn\u2019t vote for Romney \u2019cause he wasn\u2019t conservative enough. Nothing to do with it. I think it had to do with the fact that they just didn\u2019t think that anybody in Washington policy-wise had anything that was gonna fix what was wrong in their lives. And they said, to hell with it. <\/p>\nThe Republicans who think that they lost because of the Hispanic vote are wrong. I mentioned this to Senator Rubio, too. The Hispanic vote was 7% of the electorate. By contrast, the evangelical vote was 28 or 29% of the electorate. Now, of the 7% of the Hispanics, Republicans got 27 or 28% of it. Big whoop. But on the evangelical side, of that 28 or 29% turnout or percentage of the electorate, Republicans got 80% of it. And in that group, why didn\u2019t they get a hundred percent of it? They weren\u2019t gonna vote Obama. Why didn\u2019t they get a hundred percent of it? Because they just felt ignored, overlooked, or what have you. <\/p>\nI don\u2019t think it anything to do with the primaries, anything to do with anything other than they heard all this talk about everybody else. Many of them think they\u2019re the backbone of America, or have been, and everything\u2019s being pulled out from under \u2019em. Meanwhile, it\u2019s their taxes that are supporting all this other stuff. And they just said, to hell with it. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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