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RUSH: Southfield, Michigan. This is Jesse. Jesse, glad to have you on the program. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: How are you doing there, Rush? And thanks for taking my call.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You bet, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I called and I had a lengthy conversation with your screener, but I originally called because of your comments of why women, blacks, and Hispanics don\u2019t vote for the Republican Party, and then the Senator, congressman in Louisiana that flip-flopped. But first I wanted to tell you, even though I\u2019m a center-left liberal, kind of leaning right now, but I did vote for Bush in 2004, and I voted for his father. I never got the chance to tell the screener that, his father in \u201988. Reason being, in \u201988 I finished college. I got into corporate America, and I got tired of paying taxes under Democrats raising taxes, raising taxes. Under Bush 2004, I liked what he did in response to 9\/11, “No Child Left Behind,” and his couple stimulus packages where he lowered taxes also. <\/p>\n

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I flipped back over to the Democrat Party, and to answer your question why, I think if Republicans try to stop blacks from voting in inner cities through the south and some up north, they get more votes from blacks. Women, if they stay out of their womb, I think they would get more votes from women. And with Hispanics, I kind of disagree with you with Marco Rubio and things like that. I think if you go ahead and do immigration reform, I think you would pick a lot of Hispanics back up, because they\u2019re conservatives. I agree with you; they\u2019re conservatives at heart. So that\u2019s that part right there. If you want to pick up more votes —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, let me go back to take some of this stuff in order. What do you mean, if Republicans would stop suppressing the black vote in the inner cities? How are Republicans keeping blacks from voting?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, they\u2019re not keeping \u2019em from voting because more blacks voted in this last election than in history. And I think it\u2019s partly because they were pissed off because of the —<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, but you just said the Republicans have gotta stop trying to suppress the black vote.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right, the attempt, and that\u2019s with the multiple voter ID laws in places like Virginia, throughout the south, leave that stuff alone, let people go vote.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You mean requiring a photo ID to vote?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, requiring a different photo ID from the one you have in your pocket, that\u2019s what I\u2019m talking about. If you got a government ID photo in your pocket that should be fine enough. If you go to the DMV or the secretary of state, whatever you call it in your state and you register or get a driver\u2019s license and you see a voter card out or voter ID, I look at it like this, you showed your ID when you got your voter card.<\/p>\n

RUSH: All right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: So why should you have to show it again when you go to the poll?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, now, if you\u2019re a moderate-left liberal, why are you giving advice to the Republicans? Why do you want them to do better?<\/p>\n

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CALLER: Well, you gotta remember, I might be a little bit more center, but if you want to be a big tent again, not just the party of the south, not just the party of old white men, you\u2019ve got to stop, you know, the Akins, I can\u2019t remember his first name, the abortion comments, the people against immigration. You gotta stop all that, let everybody in the tent. Even if you had got all Hispanic vote in this last election, you still woulda lost.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Exactly. So what\u2019s the point?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I mean, I love some conservative ideas. I love paying lower taxes, things like that. But the party has to include everybody. <\/p>\n

RUSH: It does. Conservatism doesn\u2019t eliminate and doesn\u2019t discriminate against anybody, by definition.<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s correct. That\u2019s correct. But, when you make efforts to suppress votes, take away women\u2019s rights to choose, things like that, that does hurt your party. I\u2019m not talking about the politics of your party. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a minute. Jesse, nobody is taking away a woman\u2019s right to choose. There is not one woman who has wanted to have an abortion who\u2019s been prevented from it by virtue of some Republican telling her she can\u2019t. It\u2019s never happened.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay. So all of the laws passed through state senates and state congresses throughout the country prohibiting women\u2019s right to choose or limiting the weeks they can get an abortion —<\/p>\n

RUSH: There is no such law. The Constitution says that Roe vs. Wade is legal. There is no such law prohibiting a woman\u2019s right to choose.<\/line><\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay. Well, we\u2019re gonna have to agree to disagree on that one. I would say what about in Alabama, Mississippi, all the elimination of abortion clinics? Colorado, same thing. You know, leave that stuff — I think — to me, there\u2019s nothing wrong with the Republican Party\u2019s politics. It\u2019s the people in the party and some of the things there — that\u2019s how I see, at least. You know, you and I might disagree on it, but I think the politics, there\u2019s nothing wrong with the politics. I think it\u2019s the people in the party. One example.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You know what, it\u2019s not the politics. Jesse, what you\u2019re illustrating is that it\u2019s all the perception. <\/p>\n

CALLER: I think so, right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Everything you think is wrong, everything you think is the result of erroneous, lying, stinking media stuff, and propaganda put out by the Democrats.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019m sorry. I would say that, I would agree with you, but, see, I\u2019m like this. I know you call a lot of people, especially on the liberal side, low-information voters, but, you know what, I listen to Fox, you, Sean Hannity. I listen to your show from start to finish every day for the last four or five years.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Alright. Good for you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I watch O\u2019Reilly and Hannity on Fox. So I listen to both sides and I watch a little MSNBC, and I listen to a little Al Sharpton and —<\/p>\n

RUSH: No wonder you\u2019re confused.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I just get both sides of the story before I make my decision.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Sometimes one side of the story is an out-and-out lie. In fact, most of the time, one side of the story is an out-and-out lie. In fact, most of the stories you hear the Democrats tell they don\u2019t even talk about themselves. All they\u2019re doing is ripping Republicans, telling distorted lies about conservatism or Republicans or they\u2019re trying to impugn the character of individual Republican candidates or what have you. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Right, but that goes back and forth. That\u2019s both sides doing it, and I know that\u2019s true. But I think that people have to make a determination. They can\u2019t just listen to liberal stations and shows and then make an opinion without listening to both sides. Me, I do both, and then I make the decision for myself. This is me personally.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, let me ask you a question with this “both sides” business. I\u2019m interpreting that to mean that you don\u2019t know what you think on most things so you\u2019ve —<\/p>\n

CALLER: I do.<\/p>\n

RUSH: — gotta listen to this or you\u2019ve gotta listen to that before you make up your mind.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I think you should hear both sides of the story or both sides of an opinion before you choose a side or you make a —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — you know, you form an opinion based on both sides\u2019 information.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Nope. I don\u2019t. The liberals lie. I do not form my opinions on what both sides say. I form my opinions on what I know to be right. I form my opinion —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay.<\/p>\n

RUSH: — on what I know to be what I believe in terms of principles. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Liberals always lie?<\/p>\n

RUSH: I do not have to listen to Democrats to know what I believe.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, so are you saying liberals always lying and conservatives don\u2019t? <\/p>\n

RUSH: For the most part, that\u2019s a pretty safe bet.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, that\u2019s kind of closed-minded, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, it\u2019s not closed-minded. What it is is profoundly informed. I know who the Democrats are. I know how they campaign. I know how they poison people\u2019s minds. I know how they lie about me. I know how they lie about everything I believe. I know how they keep people in fear. I know how they want to control people. I know how they want people to believe things that aren\u2019t true. I know everything about them. I know more about them than they do. <\/p>\n

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CALLER: Both sides do that, though.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s a straw man argument. Then both sides are disqualified and you should find something — if you\u2019re gonna say, “Well, both sides do that and both sides do this and both sides –” how do you ever decide what you believe?<\/p>\n

CALLER: You have to make a determination for yourself which side is —<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s what I\u2019m saying. I\u2019ve done that. I\u2019m 62 years old. I\u2019ve made the determinations. I know who the skunks are. I know who are the people I trust and believe. I know more than that, I know the things that I believe to be true. I know the principles that I believe and swear by. I know the Constitution of this country. I love it. I know that this is a constitutional republic. I know the Democrat Party doesn\u2019t like the Constitution. The Democrat Party —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, we love the Constitution.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, Jesse, I\u2019m telling you the truth. Now, you can go listen to Al Sharpton tell you what he thinks about what I just said —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, but Al Sharpton is super, super-duper far left, so you can\u2019t take everything he says at heart.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s exactly right, Jess. So why are you wasting time over there on MSNBC?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, no, like I said, I\u2019m one that listens to both sides. I listen to both sides of the argument, and I make a determination for myself who\u2019s lying or who\u2019s stretching the truth a little bit.<\/p>\n

RUSH: All right, let\u2019s play a little game on this “both sides” business.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay.<\/p>\n

RUSH: IRS targeting Tea Parties. The Democrats say, no, no, no, it didn\u2019t happen, it was an accident. The people, excessive exuberance in there in the IRS on a couple employees\u2019 side. The Republicans say no, it was a purposeful effort to suppress conservative participation in the election by denying them tax-exempt status so they couldn\u2019t raise money. They couldn\u2019t create get-out-the-vote efforts, and it was an effort by the Obama administration to limit and suppress Republican votes. Those are the two sides of the issue. What do you think?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I agree with you on that. I\u2019m on your side on that. I think people at the IRS did do this on purpose. Now, the part I don\u2019t disagree with, I don\u2019t think Obama picked up the phone and called them and told them to do it. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Right. You know what? I agree with you wholeheartedly. Do you know why? He doesn\u2019t have to. He has people in place who already know what he wants. There isn\u2019t gonna be a smoking gun memo from Obama saying, “I want you people to target the Tea Party. I want you to make sure they don\u2019t raise money. I want you to make sure they don\u2019t vote.” The people he put there don\u2019t want conservatives to succeed. Everybody that Obama has working in these positions is a miniature Obama, doing everything that he wants done because they want to please him. So he doesn\u2019t have to tell \u2019em.<\/p>\n

CALLER: But you don\u2019t think Obama actually told someone to tell the IRS to do this, are you saying that or are you —<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, I\u2019m telling you he doesn\u2019t have to. All he\u2019s gotta do is hire people who agree with him and turn \u2019em loose. He doesn\u2019t have to tell anybody.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay. So then we\u2019re both in agreeance it was wrong, but I don\u2019t think that he actually directly picked up a phone or actually directly told someone to have this done on purpose?<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a minute. Does that mean to you that he wishes it didn\u2019t happen?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, no, I don\u2019t, because I looked at polls from a year out —<\/p>\n

RUSH: See, this is — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n

CALLER: — Romney, he was always five to seven points down. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Jesse, this is the thing. This is it in a nutshell. You are seeking to exempt Obama from what the IRS did, his IRS.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Not necessarily. Without proof, yes, I am.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Because you don\u2019t think he called them and told them to do it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Or directed someone to have them do it. He didn\u2019t have to.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s right, he didn\u2019t have to. He puts like-minded people in position who will do it without having to be told. Eric Holder is at the Justice Department doing everything Obama wants done. Obama probably never has to speak to him. Whatever\u2019s going on at the NSA in a spying scandal, they\u2019re doing everything Obama wants done. IRS, ditto; FDA, ditto, it doesn\u2019t matter. Obama puts people in those positions purposely, because they are him. He has an agenda. He wants it accomplished. He doesn\u2019t have time to meet with everybody. He\u2019s not gonna create a smoking gun memo telling them what to do so that nobody can ever prove it like you\u2019re trying to exonerate him here. This is where your own intelligence guided by experience has to inform you. And looking at both sides of this isn\u2019t gonna get you anywhere. You have to have the courage to admit that one side is wrong. And 99 times out of a hundred it\u2019s gonna be the left that\u2019s wrong.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

Now, a couple things here on Jesse, ladies and gentlemen. Jesse, I know you\u2019re still there and I appreciate the call. I had to get out \u2019cause I was running way long in the segment, but Obama hasn\u2019t fired anybody for what they did in any of these scandals. You might be saying Lois Lerner. No, she\u2019s still working, just from home. Nobody\u2019s been punished for what they did. If you don\u2019t like the fact that liberals lie more than conservatives do, put it this way. <\/p>\n

They\u2019re wrong. <\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

They may believe everything they believe. They\u2019re dead wrong. It\u2019s been demonstrably proven in so many things. Economically, culturally, they are wrong. But the fact remains in all of this stuff, you\u2019ll get… What did Jesse say? He said he voted for Bush 2004 until he heard that Republicans were suppressing the black vote. This is why the Democrats lie. They have to lie to keep people on their reservation. Here\u2019s an African-American who liked Bush, and he gave us the reasons.<\/p>\n

He liked No Child Left Behind. He liked some of the Bush stimulus. He liked Bush\u2019s tax cuts. But then he heard somebody say that the Republicans are suppressing the black vote. Now, the fact of the matter is, blacks run the heavily black districts in every inner city in this country. There is no way… Blacks run every district in Detroit. They run every district for the most part in New York. There are exceptions there, but whether they\u2019re black or not, they\u2019re ultraleftists. <\/p>\n

There\u2019s no way that the Republican Party can suppress the black vote in demonstrably black districts. It isn\u2019t physically possible. How are they gonna do it? Are they gonna go in there in these districts that are run by blacks and somehow sabotage the buses? No, it\u2019s the Democrats that did that in Milwaukee by slashing the tires. How are these Republicans suppressing the black vote? There\u2019s no evidence for it. It\u2019s just a lie that the Democrats tell that sticks because of other lies they\u2019ve told before that. <\/p>\n

The big lie is that Republicans are racists. So African-Americans hear this for 50 years, and then the Democrats come out — Jesse Jackson, Sharpton, whoever — and starts talking about Republicans suppressing the black vote? “Oh, yeah? Well, I\u2019ll show you! I voted for Bush but no more.” That\u2019s how they do it. How do Republicans suppress the black vote? How are the Republicans stopping abortions? There aren\u2019t any abortion clinics being shut down other than these murder factories that you can count on one hand, Kermit Gosnell and the like. <\/p>\n

People are believing myths. <\/p>\n

They\u2019re easy to believe because they\u2019ve been told for 50 years.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: I don\u2019t want to spend a whole lot more time on this, but the idea that Republicans “suppress” the black vote. I think even Jesse undercut his own argument. He mentioned that the black turnout for Obama was greater in 2012 than 2008. What suppression of the black vote? And in case you have forgotten, in 59 Philadelphia voting districts — divisions, precincts, whatever you want to call \u2019em in Philadelphia — Mitt Romney got zero votes. (laughing) Zero! In 59 districts, many of them African-American. <\/p>\n

Yet people want to talk about vote suppression. <\/p>\n

On this business of Obama, “Well, he didn\u2019t tell people at the IRS to do it.” The manager does not tell the pitcher to throw a brushback pitch after one of his gets beaned. The pitcher just knows to do it. Obama doesn\u2019t have time to worry about that. Look, I\u2019ve got people that work here at the EIB Network who do their jobs every day. I never once tell \u2019em what to do. They already know, and it\u2019s identical in something as powerful as a presidential administration. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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