{"id":11759,"date":"2013-08-02T01:01:01","date_gmt":"2013-08-04T03:03:31","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2013-08-04T03:03:31","modified_gmt":"2013-08-04T03:03:31","slug":"the_second_installment_of_rush_and_greta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2013\/08\/02\/the_second_installment_of_rush_and_greta\/","title":{"rendered":"The Second Installment of Rush and Greta"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>GRETA: Rush Limbaugh On the Record, and you\u2019ll hear Rush say things you have never heard him say before. But first, in our one-on-one interview, Rush Limbaugh tells us what he thinks of President Obama\u2019s &#8220;phony scandal&#8221; campaign.<\/p>\n<p>BEGIN CLIP<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Let me ask you, talking about the scandals, President Obama says the scandals are phony. Why do you think he says they\u2019re phony? Because he believes it, or is there a strategy?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: No, there\u2019s a strategy. You know, I\u2019ve been troubled by something with Obama. You know, I playfully call it the &#8220;Regime,&#8221; \u2019cause I know it irritates \u2019em. But it is, it\u2019s like a regime. And I\u2019ve been troubled, I\u2019ve been amazed. Here is a man whose policies have done great damage to this country, policies that have done great damage to the economy, have done great damage to the American culture, to the American psyche. I mean, there is a malaise, there\u2019s a sense of hopelessness and depression out there and it\u2019s his policies that have done this, and what has always amazed me is how he\u2019s not attached to any of it.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/\/videos\/#!\/43265\/51766\/Rushs-Interview-with-Greta-Van-Susteren---Part-2\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/videos\/player\/43265\/51766?id=4255636\" width=\"585\" height=\"315\"><\/iframe><\/a>He has an agenda, he\u2019s been implementing it, but the what I call the low-information voters who voted for him and other Democrats do not associate Obama\u2019s policies and agenda with the condition of the country, the economy or whatever. That\u2019s always befuddled me. I\u2019ve never, never known a president to be immune from economic circumstances at an election as he was in 2012. It all became clear to me, there was a New York Times story, I think one of their blog posts on the Web back in February, and it basically said via poll data what I just said to you. It said most people disapprove of the Obama agenda. They don\u2019t like the direction the country\u2019s going. They like him and they think he\u2019s great for the country. And I said, &#8220;How can that be?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Intellectually, how can a majority of people &#8212; and you know they oppose Obamacare by 55, 60% in a number of polls. They are worried about jobs. How in the world can they like him, reelect him, and yet disapprove of everything he\u2019s doing? I call it the Limbaugh Theorem. And you hear other people talking about it in the sense that he\u2019s a bystander president or he\u2019s outside Washington. The way he does this, he never appears to be governing. That\u2019s why he\u2019s constantly campaigning. Why is there a campaign going on for Obamacare? It\u2019s already the law of the land. Why is he out campaigning for all this stuff that\u2019s already law? It\u2019s already gonna happen.<\/p>\n<p>My theory is that Obama has positioned himself as an outsider not attached to anything that\u2019s happening. What he has made happen, he positions himself as opposed to it and against it, and fighting for everybody else to overcome what he has done. And that\u2019s one of the reasons why the constant campaign, so he doesn\u2019t appear to be governing, so he doesn\u2019t appear to be part of Washington, so he appears to have this mysterious powerful bunch of forces that are opposing him and stopping him from creating jobs, and stopping him from giving people proper health care, and stopping him from making their home values go up. He\u2019s constantly out there fighting that, and he does that by constantly campaigning and never seen to be governing.<\/p>\n<p>So all of these scandals, he calls them, they\u2019re not a distraction; they\u2019re real. But he likes them because they detract from the absolute reality of what has happened to this country as the result of his policies. Now, let\u2019s take a look selling Obamacare. &#8216;Cause I mentioned that moment ago. Why in the world are you on a campaign to sell Obamacare? I mean, it\u2019s the law. Yeah, you\u2019ve got an effort by the Republicans, two or three of them, to defund it, but why the campaign? Very simple. You go back to 2010, the 2010 midterms, the Republicans, Tea Party created, cleaned the Democrats\u2019 clocks.<\/p>\n<p>If you go back and look at the 2010 midterms that was one of the biggest shellackings the Democrat Party has had in a long time. The Republicans took back the House of Representatives, but the Democrats lost a total, nationwide, all the way down ballot of over 600 seats, and it was because of Obamacare and the rising debt and the fact that nobody was opposing it and nobody stopping it. Tea Party gets created, these people show up. Now, what Obama and the Democrats really want, what they\u2019re salivating about now is winning the House in 2014. If they get that, hold the Senate, there\u2019s no such thing as a lame duck second term. Don\u2019t even need a Congress. All they are is gonna be a rubber stamp; whatever Obama wants to do in the past two years, just signs it and does it, Congress rubber-stamps it, and we\u2019ve got it going.<\/p>\n<p>He can\u2019t be stopped. That\u2019s why they want it. But they remember 2010. So he\u2019s out there trying to change public opinion on health care so that it doesn\u2019t replicate in 2014 what happened in 2010, the midterms. He cannot afford for a bunch of Tea Party people, a bunch of anti-Obama voters to show up in 2010 voting against him and holding the House for the Republicans and maybe winning the Senate for the Republicans. That\u2019s one reason he\u2019s campaigning. The second reason he\u2019s out campaigning is simply to continue this notion that he\u2019s not of Washington that he\u2019s outside fighting against these powerful forces doing everything he can to stand up for the American people.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s the most amazing thing I\u2019ve ever seen. I\u2019ve never seen a president get away with four and a half years of not being seen as responsible for anything he\u2019s done when everything that\u2019s happened is because of him. He can\u2019t be stopped. The Republicans don\u2019t have any power. All they can do, maybe, if they get the cojones, is stop things, but they can\u2019t make anything happen. The Republicans are totally powerless in terms of legislation and Washington. They have the House, but nothing in the Senate.<\/p>\n<p>They can\u2019t stop him anywhere. Yet he\u2019s out acting like he\u2019s gotta overcome all of this opposition and all of these mean people who want to prevent the American people from realizing their dreams, these dastardly Republicans. So the phony scandals, it\u2019s just another vehicle to continue the same modus operandi and, by the way, to continue to blame the Republicans being cold-hearted, mean-spirited, extremist racist, sexist homophobes, War on Women, all that stuff.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Why do you think, though &#8212; I mean, a lot of people are unhappy about the phony scandals, at least the Republicans, because a lot of people hate the IRS. In early May he says this is a serious problem. Now it\u2019s phony, and it\u2019s just a campaign tactic? Is that what you\u2019re saying?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: He\u2019s got a slavish media. He can say whatever he wants and he\u2019s not gonna be called on it by the media. He can do pretty much everything he wants. I should have added in my previous answer to your question that he couldn\u2019t get away with any of this without a slavish media. I mean, the media doesn\u2019t question him, and, in fact, is on board with his agenda and is trying to help him advance it. I\u2019ve gotten to the point where what he says is irrelevant. I can give you quotes of what he said in 2002, 2005, 2007 about health care. I can give you quotes of what he said about global warming and all these things and they\u2019re irrelevant. What you have to do is watch what he does.<\/p>\n<p>He\u2019s always going to tell you he\u2019s not doing what he\u2019s doing. He\u2019s always going to position himself as having nothing to do with what\u2019s happening. He\u2019s always gonna position himself as &#8220;it\u2019s the Republicans, they\u2019re constantly complaining, whining. I fixed the IRS. I fired whoever did this. It\u2019s reprehensible.&#8221; All he\u2019s gotta do is talk about how reprehensible he thinks it is, the media reports: &#8220;Obama thinks IRS scandal is horrible,&#8221; and that\u2019s it. The thing that you have to know is everybody says, &#8220;I wonder if there\u2019s a smoking gun, a memo, between Obama and the IRS?&#8221; There doesn\u2019t need to be one. He hires people, puts them in these places, he knows what they\u2019re gonna do. They\u2019re all miniature Obamas.<\/p>\n<p>There won\u2019t be a smoking the gun. There doesn\u2019t have to be a memo. He doesn\u2019t have to give people that work for him instructions or a manual on how to screw the Republicans or stop conservatives. That\u2019s what they want to do themselves, plus they want to make him happy. So I think it\u2019s incredible what\u2019s happening. I think it\u2019s out-of-this-world incredible that we have somebody whose policies have led to the malaise and the destruction of the economy and the hijacking of the health care industry, and he\u2019s not held accountable for it.<\/p>\n<p>I think it\u2019s been out there; it\u2019s plain to see. The Republican Party wants a new base. They just&#8230; The Republican leadership isn\u2019t conservative. They\u2019re not particularly crazy about conservatives. I mean, I\u2019m a fairly prominent media conservative. I get more grief than the Taliban gets. I get more grief than Al-Qaeda gets. And all conservatives do because we do constitute a threat to the way Washington views the country. And I don\u2019t think it\u2019s so much conservative versus liberal, although it is. But it\u2019s Washington versus the rest of the country, is what\u2019s really transpiring now, and Washington has a mind-set and a desire for the country that doesn\u2019t dovetail with a majority of American people.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: So what is the future of the Republican Party, based on what you say?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I really don\u2019t know because politics is too unpredictable. There is anything that we\u2019re not even conceiving as possible &#8212; a scandal or some such thing &#8212; a that could happen which could cause people to start voting against Democrats in droves, regardless what the Republicans do. So it\u2019s dangerous to start predicting the demise of political parties and so forth, and I\u2019m not doing that. I just sharing with you the sense I get, as a conservative after 25 years of doing this, on this show, and watching it all, and so much of it on the surface intellectually doesn\u2019t make any sense. There has to be a reason. These Republicans are not stupid. They have to know that agreeing with the Democrats on issue after issue after issue is gonna equal Democrat victory after victory after victory.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Who do you admire in Republican politics, and why?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: (heavy sigh) I admire any who are bold enough and brave enough to speak about what they truly believe. Ted Cruz is one. Sarah Palin is another. You know, any of them who are fearless and have the courage of their convictions and have no compunction about saying it. They\u2019re not embarrassed of themselves. They\u2019re not insecure. They firmly believe what has to be done and they\u2019re willing to stand behind it. Those are the people I admire.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: What are the chances those people would ever get a nomination in the Republican Party? Probably not big.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Um, I don\u2019t&#8230; Why would that be the case?<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Because they\u2019re outside the mainstream of Republican politics as you outlined it.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, I don\u2019t think mainstream Republican politics can\u2019t be beat. I mean, there\u2019s a battle for the party going on. And, sure, it\u2019d be a tough battle. But there\u2019s no other option. You don\u2019t want to go third party. That just ensures the Democrats are a majority party forever. You don\u2019t want to do that so you have to do what you can to work within the Republican Party to take it over. I think the right conservative candidate could score. Reagan did it. I know a lot of people say, &#8220;Will you stop talking about Reagan?&#8221; Reagan, there\u2019s only one of him. But Reagan is a real-life example of what could be done, and what happens when a prominent conservative triumphs. The country and the Democrat Party set out trying to revise history about him and destroy his reputation and image, and so forth. It\u2019s a never-ending battle. Greta, a lot of people are probably saying, &#8220;Why? Why are Republicans and conservatives so,&#8221; for lack of a better word, &#8220;disliked?&#8221; The real battle, folks, that I think is going on is, on the one hand, the country is founded with liberty and freedom and the government as a servant, versus another view which says the government is all powerful and all everything, and it\u2019s the people who are servants. That\u2019s what the battle is right now.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: In the arena of ideas, what would you do to solve a problem like Detroit, or even something bigger, like the incredible growing class of poor people?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, which do you want to do first?<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Either. Take your pick.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Okay, Detroit. The first thing you gotta do is analyze what really happened there. Why did it go wrong? Now, there are some obvious things. The city has been run by Democrats unchecked since&#8230; I think the last Republican mayor was 1957, okay? That town has been a Petri dish of everything the Democrat Party stands for, everything the Democrat Party loves: Massive unions, massive pensions, pay people pensions and health care long after they\u2019ve stopped working. The math doesn\u2019t add up. You have massive warfare states where citizens are given things left and right in order to buy their votes. You had no opposition whatsoever. Then in the case of Detroit, you throw race into the mix, and you bring on Mayor Coleman Young, who causes riots in 1967 in Detroit. Mayor Young caused a &#8220;white flight&#8221; to suburbia and Detroit is left with nothing but liberal Democrats running it. It is what it is, and anyplace in this country that has similar circumstances, the same fate is gonna happen to \u2019em. Now, what was your other thing about poverty, how to bring people out?<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Poverty, yeah, because LBJ said the War on Poverty, we\u2019re gonna have legislation to try to eradicate it. Poverty\u2019s growing. It\u2019s not getting better. There are a lot of people suffering.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah, imagine that. And it\u2019s been the number-one issue of the Democrat Party out of their mouths for&#8230; Well, since 1964, when LBJ first started to care about poverty. Percentage-wise, there are the same number of people. In fact, under Obama, it\u2019s gotten worse.<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/id\/100920976\"> Four out of five American families are experiencing poverty<\/a>. Nine million jobs have been lost since Obama took office. Nine million! They\u2019re just gone.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: So &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Because of his policies. Well, the arena of ideas? This is where the Republican Party\u2019s understand standing up. They\u2019re not pushing back. They\u2019re not articulating what is the opposite to this. One of the things&#8230; You can point to successful people all over the country. No matter how successful, there are different levels of it. You point to \u2019em. How\u2019d they do it? That\u2019s all you have to look at: How did they do it? Well, there are recipes. They cared. They worked hard. They had ambition. They learned what they had to learn. Some of them might have had connections here and there, nobody does everything by themselves. But you\u2019re certainly not gonna eradicate poverty by creating dependency! Santa Claus is not a cure for poverty. It isn\u2019t gonna happen. All it is, is a way to buy votes. That\u2019s why the Democrats want amnesty.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Do you think President Obama likes his job?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I have no idea. I don\u2019t know him. I\u2019ve never spoken to him. I don\u2019t know how to read those kind of tea leaves just watching him. All I can do is read what other people have written about he doesn\u2019t show up early or whatever. I\u2019ve read people say that the job\u2019s beneath him. &#8220;He really needs to be running the world, to be challenged, to be invigorated. The United States is chump change. He needs the United Nations. He needs to be running the whole shebang.&#8221; I don\u2019t know what\u2019s true. I don\u2019t know whether he likes his job or not. I think he does and is relishing the opportunity to put into play what leftists have only dreamed about in faculty lounges for 50 to 75 years. I think he\u2019s thrilled with the opportunity he has to transform America and move it away from this unjust, immoral way it was founded and make it fair for everybody. I mean, whatever he\u2019s trying to do to it, I do think he\u2019s probably obsessed and very absorbed with that. Whether he likes getting up and going to work every day and dealing? I don\u2019t think he likes having opposition, because it\u2019s beneath him. He doesn\u2019t want to negotiate with opponents. He just wants to wipe \u2019em out &#8212; in the political sense. Just get rid of \u2019em. That\u2019s his modus operandi. So I don\u2019t think he likes the process, like Dukakis did.<\/p>\n<p>END CLIP<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Straight ahead, Rush Limbaugh has much more to say. He insists, &#8220;Washington doesn\u2019t want to find waste and fraud.&#8221; What does he mean by that? You\u2019ve not heard this, and now you will, straight from Rush. Plus, you will find out the real reason why Rush loves his job. Our sit-down interview with Rush Limbaugh continues next.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: You have never heard this before. Rush Limbaugh telling us: In the eyes of Washington, waste and fraud are no big deal. Once again, here\u2019s Rush Limbaugh.<\/p>\n<p>BEGIN CLIP<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Why is there no enthusiasm to go after waste and fraud? We did a story last night in which we\u2019re paying money to dead farmers &#8212; and I don\u2019t care if you\u2019re Republican or Democrat, I cannot understand how that is not seized upon by a politician and run with that. I would think it\u2019d be popular.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I would, too. But, see, I mean, the answer to that again is: Washington doesn\u2019t want to find the waste and fraud. Not really. Maybe a couple of isolated examples when they say, &#8220;Look what I find here, I\u2019m shutting this down,&#8221; but they don\u2019t want to. They don\u2019t want to make the government smaller. I\u2019ll give you an example of the way this works, I think &#8212; and I wish I\u2019da known this 25 years ago, or 30.<\/p>\n<p>For all of our lives, ever since the late sixties and early seventies, we\u2019ve been hearing, &#8220;We\u2019ve got to stop our dependence on foreign oil,&#8221; right? &#8220;We\u2019ve got to stop this. We\u2019ve got to.&#8221; The global warming debates has been about it, but we\u2019ve got to stop importing so much oil. Every party, Republicans, Democrats, it\u2019s been a mantra. Well, there\u2019s an oil boom going on in one of the Dakotas. I always get confused which one.<\/p>\n<p>Fracking.<\/p>\n<p>Fracking has made this country entirely energy independent. If we would go get every oil reserve that we\u2019ve got, that we could get right now with fracking, we would not need a barrel from the Middle East. Why aren\u2019t we doing it? Why is Obama not okaying the Keystone pipeline? Obama himself said, &#8220;We\u2019ve got to rid ourselves of dependence on foreign oil.&#8221; Republicans have said it.<\/p>\n<p>Why aren\u2019t we going and getting our own oil? Why are there restrictions on getting our own oil on federal lands and efforts made on private lands?&#8221; Why? Prince Alwaleed Bal &#8212; whatever his name is the other day &#8212; starts talking about, &#8220;If you guys continue fracking, we in the Middle East are going to have a big problem with it.&#8221; They don\u2019t mean it when they say it, Greta.<\/p>\n<p>So when they talk about ridding the country of waste and fraud, they say it. They think people want to hear it but when it comes to doing it be, it doesn\u2019t happen, does it? Washington doesn\u2019t want to get smaller. Washington doesn\u2019t want to take itself out of people\u2019s lives. Washington does not want to reduce its power or its size.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: But waste? I mean, like, paying dead people? I mean, how could&#8230;? I don\u2019t get how anyone could think paying dead people is a good idea.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: They don\u2019t think it\u2019s a good idea. They just don\u2019t think there\u2019s anything wrong with it. &#8220;It\u2019s no big deal. We\u2019re not talking about that much money.&#8221; It\u2019s like the foreign aid budget. &#8220;It really isn\u2019t that much money.&#8221; They don\u2019t think&#8230; Greta, at the end of the day, they don\u2019t think we\u2019ve got a debt crisis. I heard one of them say the other day, &#8220;Look, you know, I\u2019ve been hearing all my life how the national debt\u2019s gonna destroy this country.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Well, I\u2019m now 65 years old and the national debt hasn\u2019t destroyed this country. I think it\u2019s&#8230;&#8221; I forget who it was. The national debt is $17 trillion, up $6 trillion since Obama. Here you have the people who make this country work, the hard workers, the backbone of this country scared to death what\u2019s happening because they don\u2019t think their kids and their grandkids are gonna have any opportunity to acquire wealth.<\/p>\n<p>They don\u2019t think the education system is gonna treat them properly, that there isn\u2019t gonna be a private sector economy big enough to grow enough to cut it up in enough ways that a lot of people acquire wealth for simple contentment and prosperity. It is getting smaller. The government\u2019s snapping it up. That\u2019s what health care is all about. One-sixth of the economy is gone. Government just took it.<\/p>\n<p>They don\u2019t know anything about health care. What\u2019s Obama know? Why do we invest in Obama to run health care or energy? What does he know? He hasn\u2019t done diddly-squat but people think he\u2019s the expert because he cares more. What does Washington know about any of this? They don\u2019t know diddly-squat about it. Yet we invest in them to have total control and power over it.<\/p>\n<p>So waste and fraud, debt? The American people are scared to death of it. Washington? No big deal, Bernanke keeps printing. They keep buying stock and securities with it; show the economy\u2019s growing. Everything\u2019s fine and the next time there\u2019s a crisis like 2008, they\u2019ll go through the same rigmarole and they\u2019ll give us 24 hours to fix it or the end of the world could happen.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a rigged game, and it\u2019s designed to keep Washington functioning as it is, and keep Washington big, and to prevent&#8230; Look, when you\u2019re in politics, when you control something, you don\u2019t want to share it. You don\u2019t want to give it away. Don\u2019t misunderstand me. This is all a political battle. I think it should take place in the arena of ideas, in the arena of politics. I\u2019m not casting criminal motives on anybody, here. This is all political.<\/p>\n<p>But there\u2019s no push-back to it from the Republican Party side &#8212; that\u2019s my main objective &#8212; so they must be complicit with some of it.<\/p>\n<p>END CLIP<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Coming up, Rush Limbaugh on the George Zimmerman verdict and race relations in America. But first, Rush gets personal. You\u2019ll hear talk about the radio, his job, and his wife &#8212; things never heard before from Rush. That\u2019s on next.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: What makes Rush Limbaugh tick? In a rare one-on-one interview, Rush gets personal.<\/p>\n<p>BEGIN CLIP<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Why do you do your job?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I love it. I\u2019m doing what I was born to do. I love radio. I absolutely love it. Radio is the single greatest opportunity I have to be who I am. There are no constraints. I\u2019m not trying to be what other people want me to be. I\u2019m not afraid of &#8212; what somebody might think about what I do. None of the normal constraints. It\u2019s just me, and I have the total ability to do it the way I want to do it and to tell people what I think.<\/p>\n<p>And, if it goes wrong the first time, I come back the next hour, the next day and say, &#8220;Sorry, folks. What I meant yesterday was&#8230;&#8221; It\u2019s a never-ending opportunity to get it right. It\u2019s a never-ending opportunity to&#8230; I mean, there\u2019s nothing in it for me to lie about anything. I\u2019m not gonna gain anything by lying about what I believe or lying about facts. You know, I really am trying to create the most informed, educated group of participating citizens I can.<\/p>\n<p>If you asked me what the purpose of the radio show is, that\u2019d be it, after the business aspects &#8212; which is creating and holding the largest audience possible so as to charge confiscatory advertising rates. But from the consumer standpoint, it\u2019s creating an informed, growing, intelligent, educated, participating citizenry.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s why I mentioned earlier, I think it\u2019s a great compliment that all these media people say I\u2019m losing because Obama\u2019s won two elections. I haven\u2019t run against him. I can\u2019t give away money like he does. I can\u2019t buy votes and yet they\u2019ve put me in that political arena to judge me, which must mean that I\u2019m a bigger threat to them than they want to admit. I find it all flattering \u2019cause, at the end of the day, I\u2019m just a guy on the radio.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s all I ever wanted to do, from age eight, was be on the radio.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Any downside to your job?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well&#8230; (big sigh) Yeah. There are downsides to everything. Could you be specific about what &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Anything you hate about your job?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: No.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Any &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: No, because I\u2019ve gotten to the point now where I don\u2019t have to do anything I don\u2019t want to do.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Well, you have to show up every day.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah, but I love that!<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: You can\u2019t sleep in, I mean, \u2019til three o\u2019clock in the afternoon if you ever wanted to.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I can on Saturday or Sunday.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Right. So you come here every single day thinking, &#8220;I love this&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah. The night before, I&#8230; Life is show prep. You know, I leave here at three every day, and I go home and show up for two or three hours. By six or seven, I\u2019m back at it.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Doesn\u2019t it drive your wife nuts?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: (laughing) Yeah, it does a little bit. But, you know, she\u2019s busy, too. We\u2019ve got a bunch of joint projects going, and we\u2019ve got our little <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.twoifbytea.com\/\">Two If By Tea<\/a> iced tea company. She\u2019s the CEO and runs that, and that\u2019s expanding and growing and going great guns. You know, she ran the host economy operation for the NFL for Super Bowls, and she is just&#8230; She\u2019s as busy as I am, if not more.<\/p>\n<p>My job is sedentary. A lot of what she does, she\u2019s on the go quite a bit. But we get our times, weekends, vacations and so forth. But we both love what we do, and it isn\u2019t work. That\u2019s the key. I mean, if I don\u2019t want to meet with somebody, I don\u2019t have to now. Things I don\u2019t like about it. I mean, there are things I get mad at every day. You know, misunderstanding what a caller is saying.<\/p>\n<p>Or, you know, I\u2019ll see a media report that is obviously filled with misperception and lies. I mean, everybody goes through that, but that\u2019s not something I would say, &#8220;Yeah, I hate that,&#8221; because it\u2019s part of it, and I\u2019ve learned to&#8230; You know, I call myself the Mayor of Realville, and I live in reality. And whatever happens, it is. And you have to accept it and deal with it. It doesn\u2019t do you any good to wish it wasn\u2019t happening.<\/p>\n<p>Me, my reality is, I have the opportunity to change and correct my mistakes, in public, whenever I want to. It\u2019s really&#8230; I\u2019ve got a microphone. Do you know how many people are frustrated that they can\u2019t tell people what they really think, frustrated about the way the country\u2019s going? I get to do all that. You know, at the end of the day, I\u2019m feeling a hundred percent satisfied and fulfilled.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Random question: Twitter. What do you think of it?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: (chuckles) I think it\u2019s representative of the pop culture. A lot of people are on Twitter because a lot of people are on Twitter. It\u2019s one of these where people follow other people to it. I don\u2019t do it much, and the reason I don\u2019t is because you can\u2019t get it back. Once it\u2019s gone and maybe retweeted&#8230; I\u2019m very careful. But in addition to that, I want&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>One of the reasons I don\u2019t do shows like this is I want people to come to my radio show to find out what I think. I don\u2019t want to satisfy \u2019em on Twitter. I don\u2019t want to satisfy \u2019em on Facebook. We\u2019ll post some pictures or things now and then, but they are appetite whetters (faces camera) w-h-e-t-t-e-r-s. I want people coming to the radio show. You know, I\u2019m an old-fashioned media guy.<\/p>\n<p>I think there are things you do to create an audience and to hold it, and one of the things is always leave people wanting more, never satisfy \u2019em &#8212; and certainly don\u2019t make yourself available any time, anywhere, every day. People get tired of you that way.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: The impact of the Internet on politics.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: The impact of the Internet on everything is profound.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: That\u2019s all?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah. I mean, it\u2019s allowed for people to be anonymously involved in things, which allows people to be more honest about what they really think.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: See, I think that allows people who do drive-by hits. I like it is better to know who\u2019s saying what.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, no. I\u2019m not&#8230; When I say profound, I\u2019m not gonna judge whether it\u2019s good or bad because it is. You can\u2019t put the genie back in the bottle. What the Internet illustrates is just how much real ignorance there is out there, that has to be dealt with if you\u2019re in any way devoted to improving people\u2019s lives, or the country or growing it. There\u2019s a lot of ignorance that\u2019s out there. It\u2019s on display each and every day.<\/p>\n<p>Proudly.<\/p>\n<p>People are proudly posting what they don\u2019t know, although they don\u2019t know they don\u2019t know it. But, I mean, you can\u2019t&#8230; I\u2019m not gonna condemn it. That would be like condemning the Beatles. I mean, it is what it is &#8212; and you have to, when these things happen, figure out a way to use them in ways that either make you happy for, you know, hobby purposes or enjoyment or maybe maximize \u2019em in a business way.<\/p>\n<p>But it\u2019s there. It\u2019s something that&#8230; Greta, I used to be able to prep my radio show as recently as 1992 &#8212; that would be four years into it &#8212; with three newspapers, maybe four, because nobody was reading even that many of them. Three to four newspapers I was more informed than anybody in my audience. Not possible anymore. I cannot single-handedly acquire all the information that is available now, as I used to be able to do in prepping the show.<\/p>\n<p>So there are areas of the Internet that I have staff go and get and send me what they find, and it all goes to the printer behind me and at 11 o\u2019clock I start going through it and putting together the radio show. But it\u2019s just massive. The competition in what I do has never been greater. There have never been more people doing what I do. There have never been more people wanting what I have.<\/p>\n<p>There have never been more people wishing I wasn\u2019t doing what I\u2019m doing. The competitive aspects of this have never, ever been greater. One of the things I\u2019m most proud of&#8230; I mentioned that back in 1988, I was it. My radio show was it, the only national media, and it was that way for seven or eight years. Then Fox starts in 1997 and all these other conservative talk shows started, and none of it cannibalized me.<\/p>\n<p>We created a whole brand-new media piece of the pie. We actually expanded the media pie. I have not lost audience as all these conservatives have started doing radio shows, the Internet exists, Fox News. It\u2019s been fabulous. I think the existence of this massive right-wing media is another reason why the mainstream media is now so openly partisan.<\/p>\n<p>They are openly trying to eliminate their opposition. They can\u2019t get away with the pretense that they\u2019re objective and simply reporting the news. The gig\u2019s up. Everybody knows now what they\u2019ve always been: They\u2019re partisan leftists trying to advance the agenda the Democrat Party with rare exceptions. So it\u2019s out of the bag, and so the partisanship and the friction and the battles, they\u2019re not going away. They\u2019re only gonna get more intense.<\/p>\n<p>END CLIP<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Coming up, Rush Limbaugh says he was shocked by the George Zimmerman verdict. Why does he say that? Rush answers that question next.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Rush Limbaugh going On the Record about the acquittal of George Zimmerman and race relations in America. What do you have to say about the Zimmerman verdict?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I was shocked, to tell you the truth. I was surprised by it. I thought the makeup of the jury and the condition of American pop culture and the fear of civil unrest would cause the jury to say, &#8220;You know what? Let\u2019s come up with some form of guilty and get outta here.&#8221; I was really proud. They looked at the evidence and said this case has been overcharged and the prosecution didn\u2019t prove anything. The defense ended up proving it. So I was happy about it, but I was prepared for a verdict that had nothing to do with the law simply because of the forces, the pervasive forces out there have been trying to gin people up, and the sheriff\u2019s office running PSAs, &#8220;Please don\u2019t riot!&#8221; That\u2019s like saying, &#8220;Please don\u2019t think pink.&#8221; What are you thinking? There were people who were subtly, in a subconscious way, encouraging civil unrest, and I thought the jury would be aware of that. It\u2019s a small town. Sanford is a small town. Who wants to live in that kind of circumstance? I thought they\u2019d just say, &#8220;The simplest way to get rid of this is come up with a little bit&#8230; What\u2019s one guy?&#8221; But they didn\u2019t. So it was really, I think, uplifting.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: What do you think about O\u2019Reilly\u2019s statements on race?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: What are they?<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Well, I guess you didn\u2019t hear them then.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: No. What did he say?<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: He\u2019s gotten into&#8230; Basically, it\u2019s a much more involved discussion, but he has talked about the terrible things that are going on in the inner city and the families are deteriorating. Basically the social issues.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, you know, I\u2019ve had black people calling my radio show for 25 years who have said &#8212; and they profess to be conservative &#8212; &#8220;Rush, the problem is what the Democrat Party and what big government policies have done to the black family. They\u2019ve destroyed it. Seventy percent of kids are born without a father.&#8221; This isn\u2019t news. I mean, I\u2019ve had people calling me for 25 years talking about this.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve responded and said it in my own way. I\u2019ve gone so far as to say &#8212; I don\u2019t know what O\u2019Reilly said, but &#8212; I think the policies of the Democrat Party have destroyed the black family. I\u2019ve said this for how many years, because I think it happens to be true, and the Republican Party has nothing to do with this. The Republican Party has no power over blacks. They don\u2019t listen to them. It\u2019s Democrat Party policies.<\/p>\n<p>The Democrat Party became the father, the Democrat Party became the husband with federal programs here, and that\u2019s why I\u2019ve asked African-Americans, &#8220;You keep voting for 50 years for these people that are promising you this panacea, and nothing\u2019s changing.&#8221; And they all say, &#8220;&#8216;Cause the Republicans are racists, and I know they don\u2019t like us.&#8221; It\u2019s bogus. It\u2019s silly. The Republicans are not racist. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican! You know, it\u2019s an unfortunate thing. I think this is&#8230; Detroit, the black community? The Democrat Party is their savior, right? How\u2019s it working out for \u2019em?<\/p>\n<p>END CLIP<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Straight ahead, Egypt, Russia, what does the world really think of United States? Rush Limbaugh tells you what he thinks next.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Now more with Rush Limbaugh&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>BEGIN CLIP<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Let me jump to international affairs. The Middle East, our standing in the world.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: What? What? Standing in the world?<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Yeah. How we doing?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Who cares? Do you care?<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Well, to the extent that we have to&#8230; If &#8212; if there &#8212; is any influence on world problems, I do care. I don\u2019t want &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: With John Kerry, Hillary? Influence? We\u2019re a joke. You go back to 2008 and the campaign and we were told that the world hated America. They hated Bush. They hated us because of Abu Ghraib, they hated us because of Guantanamo Bay, they hated us because of 9\/11. They hated us for all these reasons. They hated us because of Republicans. They hated us because of Bush. &#8220;We need Obama to make the world love us. We need Democrats and liberals, people who understand Europeans.&#8221; We\u2019ve got all that, and we don\u2019t have any influence over what\u2019s happening in the world, and I don\u2019t see we\u2019re trying to exert any.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: It\u2019s expensive. I mean, we spend a lot of money on it.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, yeah, we spend a lot of money on everything but there\u2019s never an accounting for how much it works. Look, I want to be careful about something here because the people in the US military and some people in the Foreign Service are really true patriots, and they really are trying to represent and maintain America\u2019s best interests in all of these places around the world. I don\u2019t want to appear to be casting aspersions. I just&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I think the short answer to your question is that, contrary to what most low-information voters in this country think, I don\u2019t think that the rest of the world is enamored of Obama. If you read the foreign press you get the truth about the incompetence, about the economic destruction. You read the British papers, British media, you get the truth reported about what\u2019s happening in this country, because they\u2019re not part of the agenda.<\/p>\n<p>You look at Egypt. I thought Morsi was Obama\u2019s guy. I thought the Muslim Brotherhood, that\u2019s who Obama wanted. Well, Egypt\u2019s military said, &#8220;Screw all of you,&#8221; and they kicked Morsi out and took back control of the country for better or worse. John Kerry is in Russia and Putin\u2019s fishing. These people are&#8230; I think they\u2019re clueless, and I don\u2019t think they have slightest idea.<\/p>\n<p>They don\u2019t have a reverence for the country that you and I &#8212; well, at least your question indicates. To them, America\u2019s the problem in the world. America, as a superpower, makes the world out of balance. It was better when the Soviet Union was around. Madeleine Albright even said this! The Soviet Union kept us in check. A competing superpower was able to help the United States be restrained.<\/p>\n<p>These people &#8212; liberal Democrats, leftists &#8212; think that the American military\u2019s the focus of evil in the modern world, that we are imposing freedom on people, if you can believe that, and that United States is destroying the planet with global warming, with our capitalism, with our wanton consumption of resources.<\/p>\n<p>And they\u2019re about cutting this country down to size. People like me think the United States is the solution to problems around the world. But when you\u2019ve got people who think the United States is responsible for these problems &#8212; and on occasion have gotten close to apologizing &#8212; then, you know, I just don\u2019t take seriously what they\u2019re doing.<\/p>\n<p>END CLIP<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: Coming up, more with Rush Limbaugh up close and personal. Stay tuned.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: So, I just love radio. It\u2019s just, you know, that\u2019s what I was born to do, and I love it. I don\u2019t know&#8230; I can\u2019t imagine not doing it.<\/p>\n<p>GRETA: And millions of listeners can\u2019t imagine radio without Rush Limbaugh, either. We want to thank Rush for taking us behind the scenes of his radio show and for taking the time to talk with us &#8212; and thank you for being with us. Make sure you go to <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com\/\">GretaWire.com<\/a> and let us know what you thought of our interview with Rush Limbaugh.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>GRETA: Rush Limbaugh On the Record, and you\u2019ll hear Rush say things you have never heard him say before. But first, in our one-on-one interview, Rush Limbaugh tells us what he thinks of President Obama\u2019s &#8220;phony scandal&#8221; campaign. 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