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RUSH: Steve in South Bend, Indiana. Welcome, sir. It\u2019s great to have you here. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, good afternoon, Rush. Thank you for taking my phone call. Long-time listener, first-time caller. In fact you mentioned Hillarycare earlier, and it\u2019s around 1993 that I think I first started tuning in, when Hillarycare debacle was going down. One thing I might add is, if you recall, C. Everett Koop supported Hillarycare. In fact, if you remember the red carpet ceremony with Hillary walking into the joint session of Congress, I think she was joined by C. Everett Koop, who lent his weight behind her plan. <\/p>\n

That\u2019s not why I called. Okay, 2010 when Obamacare was passed, they went to the states and wanted the states to offer extended Medicaid. The promise was that the federal government would pay for it for two years — and the bait, of course, was that the states did not have to pay for it. It was free Medicaid for two years. But then, of course, once they get everybody hooked into their entitlement then the federal government pulls the rug out from under it.<\/p>\n

But everybody\u2019s hooked so, you know, the states have to continue it. What I can foresee, what I predict with Obamacare rollout 2.0 is they\u2019re just gonna jack up the subsidies. They\u2019re gonna get everybody hooked in who lost their health care by overly subsidizing them, get \u2019em hooked and — you know, for a protracted, limited time, a year or two or whatever — and once theory hooked, they\u2019re hooked. And you just mentioned the taxpayer subsidy would probably be a possibility. That\u2019s what I see happening.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, well, I think that\u2019s what Jay Carney means when he quotes the president as saying he doesn\u2019t like people put in a position where they can\u2019t afford a better plan. So here comes subsidies. That\u2019s the Democrat solution to everything, is buy them. The fact that we don\u2019t have the money is irrelevant. The fact that they\u2019re still being lied to is irrelevant. We\u2019ll just buy them. We\u2019ll just buy their love. We\u2019ll just buy their support. And we\u2019ll use the federal Treasury to do it. <\/p>\n

There\u2019s a guy who writes a piece in The Politico today named Jonathan Gruber, and he practically admits — let me read a little excerpt here. “The White House is ‘just reacting to one broken promise by imposing a much larger and harmful one: our promise to insurers that if they priced fairly, we would deliver a broad pool of insured. If you allow the healthy enrollees to stay out in their old policy, the insurers lose money and the program falls apart.'”<\/p>\n

So, in other words, if insurers are allowed to keep their plan, Obamacare will fail. If you get to keep your plan, if we try to dial back the clock and everybody gets to keep their plan, it won\u2019t work, because the insurers will lose money and the program falls apart because they won\u2019t stay in business that way, whereas the federal government can. Jonathan Gruber was quoted. He didn\u2019t write the piece, but he was one of the architects of Obamacare. He practically admitted that if insurers are allowed to keep their plans, that Obamacare will fail. Meaning, if you\u2019re allowed to keep your plan, Obamacare fails. This has been my point all week. You cannot keep your plan and have Obamacare at the same time. Obamacare, by definition, gets rid of your plan and replaces it with health care run by the federal government. <\/p>\n

Now, the caller is right about Medicaid. Remember, they tried to off that to the states, and a lot of states said, “Wait a minute, we don\u2019t have the money to pay for this.” But Obamacare wanted to off that expense to the states to reduce the overall cost as reported to the CBO. Keep it under a trillion dollars and get it approved and everybody thinks, “Oh, wow, it\u2019s a net wash, we\u2019re replacing the Iraq war with health care, no loss, no gain.” The whole thing was a lie. The states said, “We can\u2019t afford Medicaid. We can\u2019t print money. We can\u2019t accept it.” <\/p>\n

So now it\u2019s coming back, and Obama, the theory is, “Well, we\u2019ll just subsidize people,” and like the caller said, “We\u2019ll get \u2019em hooked,” and once people are hooked with the government paying for things for them, that\u2019s it. But they\u2019re subsidizing it with money they don\u2019t have. But that\u2019s the story of this whole administration. There was a stimulus that we didn\u2019t have. A green energy program for money that we didn\u2019t have. We\u2019re subsidizing everything Obama is doing with money that we don\u2019t have. But the beneficiaries don\u2019t care. The people getting the money don\u2019t care that we don\u2019t have the money. In fact, you tell \u2019em we don\u2019t have the money and they say, “Yes, we do, I just got it.” <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: The Gruber quote, just to be clear, he\u2019s one of the architects of Obamacare, it\u2019s in a Politico piece. Gruber is reminding people that we cannot go back and give people their old plans. We will not have Obamacare if we do that. We can\u2019t turn back the hands of time. We cannot turn back the clock as a fix for all the people that are losing their policy, losing their doctor, we can\u2019t just now say, “Oh, okay. Well, here it is back.” The reason is, the White House is just reacting to one broken promise by imposing a much larger and harmful one. And the original promise to the insurers, not the insured, the original promise to the insurers, the insurance companies, was that if they priced their policies fairly, that the regime would deliver a broad pool of uninsured that were mandated to buy. <\/p>\n

This is how they hooked the insurance companies in. These idiots thought that they were guaranteed 30 million new customers. (interruption) Well, they are. What else explains this? So they sit there, and of course it\u2019s the president, I guess you meet with the president and he tells you something, you automatically believe it. That\u2019s what I don\u2019t get. But anyway, they did, they bought it. And they were salivating, 30 million new customers and all we\u2019ve gotta do is price our policies fairly. Well, now they can\u2019t offer what they were offering at the same price because of the new mandates and all that in Obamacare. <\/line><\/p>\n

The bottom line is, it isn\u2019t easy to repair this broken promise, that millions of consumers would be able to keep their insurance coverage. And, by the way, the Politico, in random act of journalism here, they\u2019ve gone out and they found a bunch of industry experts to say so. You can\u2019t repair this broken promise. The reason I\u2019m making a big deal out of this is Jay Carney was asked by AP today if Obama agrees with Clinton. You know, Clinton said (Clinton impression), <\/a>“I think he ought to honor his promise. He said that people can keep their plan, I think he should do that.” You can\u2019t! It doesn\u2019t work. The only way you could do that would be a total repeal of Obamacare. There are just too many mandates and requirements on everybody. That is why people got canceled in the first place. <\/p>\n

Your insurance company didn\u2019t cancel you \u2019cause they hate you. They didn\u2019t cancel you \u2019cause they want you to get sick and die. They didn\u2019t cancel you because they\u2019re Republicans, they don\u2019t care about people. They canceled you because they couldn\u2019t offer what you had at the price you were paying and stay in business, which was the design. Obamacare, to get where Obama and the Democrats want it to ultimately end, requires that the private sector health insurance industry cease to exist. This is the first step, is practically requiring them to be unable to provide you with the policy you\u2019ve always had, because there are other mandates and requirements they have to conform to that makes it impossible to over to you the coverage you had at the price you were paying. <\/p>\n

So the only way to get your plan back is not to fix a broken promise. Now, they may try a subsidy, but the only way is to repeal Obamacare, folks. This is what this architect is basically saying, as is The Politico. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, here\u2019s the money quote from Jonathan Gruber: “If you allow the healthy enrollees to stay out in their old policy, the insurers lose money and the program falls apart.” The program is Obamacare. You cannot have people stay in their old plans and have Obamacare. It\u2019s exactly as I\u2019ve been saying.<\/line>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: I don\u2019t know, folks. I still can\u2019t get over Clinton telling Obama to honor his commitments and not break his promise. You know, I famously said, “I hope he fails.” Clinton is admitting Obama failed and demanding that he fix it. The guy who lied to a grand jury telling the sitting president to be honest. <\/p>\n

Folks, this Politico piece that I just stumbled across here during the program, if I don\u2019t mind saying so, is a huge See, I Told You So. I have been — and I hate that phrase, by the way, “I\u2019ve been saying.” You hate it, but I hate it when other people use it because it implies that nobody\u2019s listening, and I know you\u2019ve heard me say this. It\u2019s almost an habitual thing to remind people that they\u2019ve been told of something. <\/p>\n

I\u2019ve been trying to make the point now — I really hammered it yesterday with a caller — ever since people started bellyaching about losing their policies. I mean, I\u2019ve practically been pounding my fist on the table here telling people that you have to lose your policy if there is going to be Obamacare. I don\u2019t want to have to go through this again. By the way, I need to really apologize to you all for being all over the ballpark today. I\u2019m just really fatigued. I\u2019m just worn out, tired — and it\u2019s not assisted by being rudely awakened by my kitten<\/a>. <\/p>\n

Well, you know, what I mean by that is I\u2019m saying silly things, like, “Why do people not remember?” I know the answer to these questions I\u2019m asking. I just let my guard down. I\u2019m asking stupid questions to which I already know the answers. I\u2019m just basically saying, “Gee, why can\u2019t it be some way else?” and I know that that\u2019s silly. You know, wishing for it to be otherwise is silly, \u2019cause it is what it is. But this is big. I\u2019m telling you that\u2019s why this lie that he told is so fraudulent. <\/p>\n

You mean, it\u2019s impeachable what he\u2019s done here, because there\u2019s no way anybody was ever going to be able to keep their plan, and yet he made that the number one selling point. Without that lie he might nota been reelected, and without that lie we might not be saddled with this albatross. The American people have been deceived and defrauded. You let Richard Nixon try this and see what happens. <\/line><\/a><\/line><\/p>\n

Bernie Madoff is a piker compared to the fraud<\/a>, including the money, compared to what Obama has done with that one lie, because it was never true. There was never going to be a way that you or anybody could keep your plan — and the simplest way to understand that is he\u2019s out there telling the entire nation, “If you like your plan, you can keep it,” and for the most part, the vast majority of people liked that characteristic of Obamacare. <\/p>\n

That\u2019s why they supported it.<\/p>\n

Do you think he would have been reelected if he would have told people that this is what was gonna happen? If he were to campaign now, “You\u2019re gonna lose your plan, and the replacement\u2019s gonna cost you three times as much, but we have to do it to insure the uninsured,” do you think he would have been reelected? Do you think we would have to deal with this? As Joe Biden once said, “This is a big F—ing deal.” <\/p>\n

You were never gonna be able to keep your plan, and the fact that he made it the number one selling point, and that they knew! The Federal Register admited that 93 million people were not gonna keep their plans. They knew that, and they\u2019ve known it since 2010, when this all started. The fact that he made that the number one selling point for this, stop and think for a second. <\/p>\n

If everybody keeps their plan, then what the hell are we talking about? Why do we need Obamacare? If you like your plan and get to keep it, what\u2019s wrong? The only thing that anybody could say is wrong, well, the insured. Now, I realize that especially may have not liked their plans because they believed there was something better, and that was the second lie that was told. “Do you like your plan? You can keep it, but the alternative is gonna be even better for you.” <\/p>\n

The scope of this fraud is incalculable and almost unimaginable. That\u2019s how big it is. So for this Obamacare architect — a man by the name of Jonathan Gruber, in The Politico today — to be admitting this is a huge See, I Told You So. The See, I Told You So is specifically what I drilled home to a caller yesterday, that these canceled policies will never be brought back. Now, you\u2019re gonna hear Democrats talk about reinstating your lost policy.<\/p>\n

And you might hear some idiot Republicans talking about wanting to support that, and you might hear the media talk about it. But it\u2019s not possible. Your policy cannot be restated, or restored unless Obamacare is repealed, and that isn\u2019t going to happen. Obama will not do it. Saul Alinsky, that might put the fire out in hell. That would never happen. Repealing this thing, that\u2019d be one of the biggest embarrassment ever. I know that they might delay the individual mandate.<\/p>\n

They might try to do a bunch of things here to limit the pain, or to move the pain to after the 2014 elections, but these plans cannot be brought back. They were canceled precisely because Obamacare doesn\u2019t permit them, financially and with regulation. That\u2019s why you\u2019ve been canceled. It\u2019s not because the insurance companies hate you. It\u2019s not because they want you to get sick and die. It\u2019s not \u2019cause they\u2019re a bunch of Republicans and they\u2019re trying to save money. It\u2019s none of that. <\/p>\n

They can\u2019t stay in business with your old plan. They\u2019re not gonna be in business anyway by the time this is all said and done. Now, The Politico piece also has this. “The Huffington Post reported that the [regime] is considering providing subsidies to those who lost coverage but wouldn\u2019t qualify for subsidies otherwise under the law.” So they\u2019re gonna buy you off. You\u2019ve lost your plan and you can\u2019t get it back.<\/p>\n

So they\u2019re gonna cover the difference with a subsidy. Now, if you\u2019re the Republicans, I don\u2019t know how you deal with that. If you oppose that, what can they say about you? “Well, you want people to starve! Oh, you don\u2019t want people to have health care? Oh, you want people in pain?” Once you get to the point where the federal Treasury becomes the number one weapon before for a political party to stay in power, I don\u2019t know how you battle that. I really don\u2019t. <\/p>\n

I don\u2019t know how you battle that, given how many low-information voters we have, given how many people are already on food stamps and dependent, how many people are already in poverty. I don\u2019t know how you re-instill a sense of self-reliance. And particularly when it comes to health care, I just don\u2019t know how you do that. And that is why I am sounding wistful here in wishing for fantasy, \u2019cause it is fantasy that people understand and remember how devastating liberalism is. They just don\u2019t. <\/p>\n

They fall for it every time it\u2019s pitched to \u2019em. <\/p>\n

Well, maybe not. They had to be lied to big time to fall for this. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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