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RUSH: Now, there\u2019s a continuing controversy surrounding New Jersey governor Chris Christie. I mean, it\u2019s all over the place. First, we have learned that Jimmy Fallon called Governor Christie. He gave him a heads-up that he and Springsteen were gonna make fun of him. I don\u2019t know what Christie said to Fallon, don\u2019t know that Fallon got through, don\u2019t know that Fallon actually talked to Christie. We just know that Fallon called Christie\u2019s office or Christie and said, “Hey, Springsteen\u2019s coming on, and we\u2019re gonna make fun of you.” <\/p>\n

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Which I guess is supposed to make it okay, then, once you give the object of your ridicule a heads-up. (interruption) Yeah, like Madonna and her son. Don\u2019t even… (interruption) Yeah. Now, there. If you want to talk about cultural decay and deterioration, that\u2019s what you talk about, and that\u2019s what going on for a long, long time. Now, here it is in a nutshell. This is the latest with Governor Christie. <\/p>\n

Dawn Zimmer is the mayor of Hoboken. (Somebody has to be, folks.) Dawn Zimmer is the mayor of Hoboken, and she is claiming that back in May the New Jersey lieutenant governor, Kim Guadagno, pulled her aside after touring a ShopRite that had been rebuilt after Hurricane Sandy and told her that Hoboken would not get any Hurricane Sandy relief aid if she didn\u2019t help push a real estate development project that Governor Christie wanted. <\/p>\n

So the story is that Dawn Zimmer, the mayor of Hoboken, was pulled aside by the New Jersey lieutenant governor, Kim Guadagno, also female, and it was babe to babe. And the lieutenant governor babe said to the mayor babe, “If you don\u2019t get on board with us, you\u2019re not getting any Sandy money.” Dawn Zimmer is the mayor. The lieutenant governor\u2019s denying it, says it never happened. <\/p>\n

The mayor of Hoboken, Dawn Zimmer, is saying it did happen. She is not conceding anything, and she has provided MSNBC with an entry from her personal diary in which she recounted the incident. Oh, speaking of which, the New York Times actually has a soap opera-type story<\/a> today about how Christie has fallen out of favor with the hosts of MSNBC, that they loved Christie.<\/p>\n

They had a lot of hope invested in him as a Republican who could screw other Republicans and now there\u2019s been a falling out because of the scandal. It\u2019s actually written as though it\u2019s a breakup of a soap opera-type relationship. We will explain that in due course as the program unfolds. Now, the lieutenant governor, according to the mayor of Hoboken, said, “It\u2019s very important to Governor Christie…”<\/p>\n

This is the diary entry that describes Lieutenant Governor Guadagno saying of the development project, “It is very important to the governor. The word is that you are against it and you need to move forward or we are not going to be able to help you. I know it\u2019s not right — these things should not be connected — but they are, she says, and if you tell anyone, I will deny it.”<\/p>\n

So she\u2019s out telling the world that this happened, and the lieutenant governor is denying it. “Zimmer said she was given the same message four days later by Richard Constable, Christie\u00c2\u2019s community affairs commissioner. As the two prepared to appear on a television program about Sandy recovery, she said Constable told her she needed to support the project for her city to receive aid.”<\/line><\/p>\n

Now Guadagno and Constable are both denying what the mayor of Hoboken is saying. So what are we to do with this? Who are we supposed to believe here? Now, I guess one of the trains of thought is the governor wouldn\u2019t be this stupid, wouldn\u2019t make himself this big a target. He wouldn\u2019t tell the lieutenant governor go out there and deny aid if the mayor didn\u2019t come forth and help with the redevelopment project or supported it.<\/p>\n

Nobody would do that. So the tendency, I guess, is to not believe the mayor of Hoboken on the basis that Christie wouldn\u2019t do it. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: Ladies and gentlemen, we were all told for a long time that having women in politics was gonna put an end to political corruption because there wouldn\u2019t be any testosterone. Having women in politics would end war, for example, and barbarism. With women in leadership, there wouldn\u2019t be any predatory-type behavior because women don\u2019t do that and don\u2019t have a dominance of testosterone and they\u2019re not made that way. <\/p>\n

They\u2019re nurturers and peacemakers. They are focused on relationships and making things work. So I\u2019m sitting here a little confused reading of the contretemps between the female lieutenant governor alleging that it is the mayor of Hoboken is lying and then vice-versa. So I\u2019m gonna have to think. It\u2019ll take me some time to work through this, \u2019cause I believed all of that. Now my world is upside down. I don\u2019t quite know how to process this. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: I don\u2019t know. This is tough trying to figure which one of these women is lying. One of \u2019em has to be. (interruption) So the lieutenant governor is blonde, and the mayor is brunette. Is that relevant in determining which one of \u2019em\u2019s telling the truth? I don\u2019t know. Just asking. The lieutenant governor seems a little bit more at home with makeup than the mayor. Is there anything to learn from that? I\u2019m just asking. <\/p>\n

(interruption) Well, just in determining who\u2019s telling the truth. I mean, one goes au natural, and we may be able to conclude, as an environmentalist there, the lieutenant governor is a bit more conventional. I don\u2019t know. I\u2019m just… We gotta figure out who\u2019s telling the truth here. There\u2019s a huge lie somebody\u2019s telling here. This is big. I mean, you got a mayor asserting that a governor told her she\u2019s not gonna get any hurricane relief aid unless she joins the governor\u2019s redevelopment project.<\/line><\/p>\n

And the lieutenant governor says, “No, no, no! I never said that to her.” Well, how do we determine who\u2019s being truthful here? Okay, you ask that: Who benefits the most from a lie? Or is it: Who benefits most from getting away with the lie? You gotta get away with it, and I don\u2019t know the answer to that yet. I guess we\u2019re just gonna have to watch this play out, but it\u2019s gonna be really tough because we\u2019ve all been told that women in positions of power would not do this kind of stuff, that this is an exclusively province of men in politics. <\/p>\n

Now, Richard Sherman, very quickly, then we\u2019ll move on to other things. Like…<\/p>\n

Did you know smoking increases your chances of your child being gay in adulthood? This is UK Telegraph: “A neuroscientist has claimed a woman\u2019s lifestyle during pregnancy is directly linked to the development of their children, influencing whether they may be gay and having an impact on their IQ,” and the more a woman smokes, the greater the likelihood the child will be gay in a adulthood. Does this mean that we will see various gay political groups moderate their position on smoking? We\u2019ll have to keep a sharp eye. It\u2019s that kind of stuff in the news.<\/p>\n

This New York Times headline: “For Christie and MSNBC a Messy Divorce Plays Out in Public View.” It\u2019s like a soap opera, what\u2019s happening between MSNBC and Governor Christie. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: The mayor of Hoboken was asked, “Why did you wait eight months?” And she offered up an answer that many women who have suffered alleged abuse at the hands of a predatory man say. She said, “Well, I was afraid nobody would believe me.” Why were you afraid nobody would believe you? ‘Cause you\u2019re a Democrat? (imitating Zimmer) “Well, nothing else going on, everybody loves Christie, he\u2019s the king, he\u2019s crossing the aisle, here I come out and tell the truth, nobody would believe me eight months ago.” So that\u2019s what she\u2019s saying as why she didn\u2019t say anything about it until now. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: We start Quincy, Illinois. Hi, Debbie. You\u2019re up first. It\u2019s great to have you here. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. How are you doing?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Very well. Thanks.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I called today because all this talk about Christie and the governor of Hoboken — I\u2019m sorry, the mayor. Has anybody looked at the numbers? I mean, they received money in the first round of all that over $300,000, according to an article, and I wondered how that compared to the others?<\/p>\n

RUSH: What article?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, I don\u2019t know. Something I found on my phone. I just Googled in “mayor of Hoboken,” and then there was an article that they had gotten like $326,000 in the first round.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So you\u2019re saying, then, based on your opinion having read the article is, that the mayor of Hoboken is lying?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay, we can go there. Mmm-hmm. Yeah. That and you\u2019re in a conversation with somebody. Unless they\u2019ve legislated that you can only have one topic and then you have to come back and have the second topic, I can well envision talking about the disbursements and then saying, “You know, by the way, we really need your support on this real estate development thing,” and communication being sending out a message and perceiving it, who knows what she actually heard as opposed to what was actually intended? But you never figure out she said\/she said. But if you look at the numbers of that disbursement, was it within…?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, wait. If we\u2019re gonna take the article you found on your phone at face value and believe it, then there was money from Hurricane Sandy that she\u2019s telling people the governor\u2019s office\/lieutenant governor\u2019s office said she wasn\u2019t gonna get, which would then lead you, as you said, to conclude that the mayor of Hoboken is lying, and that\u2019s it. We gotta figure out which one is. You may be on to something. I don\u2019t know yet.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: Okay, here\u2019s Dawn Zimmer. I want to get some sound bites in here. This is on State of the Union on CNN Sunday. She is the Hoboken mayor, and Candy Crowley said, “In May of last year when a couple of officials said to you, ‘Listen, Sandy relief aid will in fact, maybe be jeopardized if you don\u2019t go along with this redevelopment plan,\u2019 why are you here now?”<\/p>\n

ZIMMER: Back in May when the lieutenant governor came and very directly said to me that these two things are connected, I… You know, I didn\u2019t think anyone would believe me. I really didn\u2019t. I mean, I — I do, looking back, probably should have come forward, but I really didn\u2019t think anyone would believe me. I was really concerned that if I came forward and no one believed me, that we would really be cut out of the Sandy funding. But as I watched the — the coverage with Bridgegate, you do see parallels, and I just felt, you know, I had an obligation to come forward, and as I look at the second tranche of funding that\u2019s coming through, I\u2019m concerned we\u2019re gonna be cut out.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. So there was a first tranche of funding, and that\u2019s the now acknowledged as 300-plus thousand dollars. But now the second tranche might not be forthcoming. So she said as I counted three times, maybe four times in there, “Well, I didn\u2019t think anybody would believe me.” I just didn\u2019t think anybody would believe me. But then when Bridgegate hit, now, Andrea Mitchell (NBC News, Washington) is very upset. She is very upset about the Democrats. Andrea Mitchell (NBC News, Washington) is very upset because she thinks the Democrats are overdoing this in their attack on Chris Christie.<\/line><\/p>\n

MITCHELL: I think the Democrats are probably overdoing it by following him around and trailing him and looking like they\u2019re piling on. But he\u2019s gotta deal with the investigation and make sure that if everything that he said is correct, he\u2019s home free, but he\u2019s gotta make sure, and there are a lot of e-mails out there.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, that\u2019s really gonna help Christie with the Tea Party. There\u2019s Andrea Mitchell (NBC News, Washington) defending Christie. An accredited member of the NBC News Bureau, which may as well be the Politburo coming out now and defending Christie and getting all over the Democrats. Now, what does she know that we don\u2019t? She\u2019s gotta have some polling data out there, right? But she\u2019s also trying to sustain Christie as a viable candidate. <\/p>\n

Why would that be? <\/p>\n

We know that she\u2019s never gonna vote for Chris Christie no matter what, so why does she want him on the ballot? (interruption) Well, yeah, he\u2019s weakened, and that\u2019s bad. I mean, Andrea Mitchell (NBC News, Washington) is invested in Hillary Clinton winning, and she doesn\u2019t like what they\u2019re doing to Christie here. I guess she\u2019s afraid maybe there\u2019s gonna be a rebound of sympathy for Christie because they overdo it, and she wants Christie to end up being harmed and get the nomination. <\/p>\n

They\u2019re all trying to guarantee smooth sailing for Hillary in this. Now, Christie is the only guy in polling data defeating Hillary, and there are two polls that show that, and they live and die on these polls. So it\u2019s time to take Christie out, and she\u2019s worried they\u2019re overdoing it. She\u2019s also got the caveat, “Well, look, he\u2019s home free if he\u2019s telling the truth. There are a lot of e-mails out there, if he\u2019s not telling the truth.” But it\u2019s too early for her. Taking Christie out now is early enough that there could be somebody else come along and become a genuine threat to Hillary. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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