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RUSH: Here\u2019s Bill Donohue on CNN\u2019s “New Day” today with the host, Chris Cuomo, and they\u2019re discussing Jan Brewer\u2019s veto of the Arizona bill. <\/p>\n

Cuomo said, “Why do you believe that Arizona needed this law?”<\/p>\n

DONOHUE: People of faith, whatever faith you may be, are fed up with the idea — starting with this federal government with the Obama administration — when it comes to matters sexual, abortion or same-sex marriage are basically pushing gay rights, encroaching on the rights of people of faith. Whether it\u2019s denial in Illinois and Massachusetts about adoption for the Catholic Church, Catholic Charities. We have an attorney general who tells the state\u2019s attorneys general, “Don\u2019t even bother enforcing the laws when it comes to marriage.” Look, gays as individuals, I\u2019m with you on that. Let\u2019s protect them in the workplace. Let\u2019s protect them as individuals. What my concern is, and I think I speak for a lot of people of faith, is the institution of marriage. That\u2019s a separate issue altogether.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: No, it\u2019s not. Not anymore. No, no, no. It\u2019s not a separate issue. It\u2019s whatever the left wants it to be now. – Chris Cuomo then said, “Are you aware, Mr. Donohue, that in Arizona the LGBT community is not a protected class? Are you aware of that?”<\/p>\n

DONOHUE: As a matter of fact, I don\u2019t even believe it. Quite frankly, we\u2019ve had this RFRA law, Religious Freedom Restoration Act since 1997 at the federal level. Where are the examples of gays being discriminated against? If they\u2019re so discriminated against, how come they make more money that than straight people, on average? Is somebody being denied in Appleby\u2019s getting a hamburger? Where are these examples? Can you enumerate for me examples of gay people in Arizona who are having their rights violated by people of faith?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Duh. Dead silence. Again, not the point. Gay people don\u2019t have to have their rights violated by people of faith in Arizona because the left thinks that the people of faith in Arizona would if they could discriminate, because they\u2019ve already made up their minds that they are bigots and homophobes because they are Republicans. So it doesn\u2019t matter that there isn\u2019t any evidence of discrimination. All that matters is the left knows they\u2019re thinking about it.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: This is Justin in West Covina, California. Hi. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, thank you, Rush. I just wanted to say that I don\u2019t understand why people would think that it\u2019s going to stop at the unfortunate couple that did not want to take photographs of the gay wedding.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait. Wait just a second.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah?<\/p>\n

RUSH: I want to understand. You want to say you don\u2019t understand why people would think it\u2019s gonna stop at the…? Oh. Oh. Yeah. Like this is not the solution to anything? This is just the beginning of new problems, right?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes. Meaning that I believe that ultimately they are going to go into the churches, demand to be married in a given church, and when they\u2019re told no because of the religious grounds, then they will turn around and sue the church, attempting to strip the church of the tax-exempt status — which, of course, will force the church to disappear. So the leaders will either have to get in line, all religious people either get in line or, you know, your church itself ultimately will be pushed out of the marketplace — or not marketplace, but pushed out of society as a whole.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Let me ask you a question, Justin.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Sure.<\/p>\n

RUSH: In Arizona, what was it, even? Was it baking a cake? A baker refused to make cake for a gay couple, and there was one other instance and so that became Arizona\u2019s problem?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, I was referring to the couple in Utah, the photography company.<\/p>\n

<\/a>RUSH: Right. Yeah. I just wanted to establish what those two were. What makes you think that this is not over? Why do you think they\u2019re gonna next go into churches and demand to be married?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Because I don\u2019t believe that it is about the idea that they can exist as a couple and have all of the rights that they want to have. I believe that the idea is that everyone must accept them and must agree to whatever terms that they want. Meaning: The belief that they are the same, to believe that religiously it is acceptable, everyone must accept their lifestyle. I don\u2019t believe that they will allow any exceptions to that as far as their perspective and their movement.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So you think that ultimately they\u2019re going to want to just basically destroy the church.<\/p>\n

CALLER: That is correct. Yes. Religion as a… I don\u2019t believe that they will destroy religion. It is that if the religious groups or the church do not accept them, do not agree to marry them, do not agree that they are the same as a heterosexual couple in their eyes, then, yes. All of those people, all of those groups — businesses, churches — are to be wiped out of existence.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you are describing political activists.<\/p>\n

CALLER: That is correct, yes, which is exactly what they are, what I believe them to be.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But, no. We\u2019re told they\u2019re people that love and have sex with each other and just want to be able to live peacefully without being hassled. But you\u2019re describing people that want to go in and tear down institution after institution that might make them feel threatened or something. That\u2019s what political activists do.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, and if what you said is true — the projection being portrayed by the media<\/a> that they just want to live happily and be with each other — then they could create their own churches and marry away as much as they would like in all of the places where that can be done, and there would be nothing to stop them, and the confrontation could be avoided entirely with religious groups that don\u2019t accept them.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But you\u2019re saying they want the confrontation.<\/p>\n

CALLER: That is precisely what they want. They want the confrontation with anyone that doesn\u2019t agree with what they want, which is why it\u2019s a political movement, not just being together and being alone to do what they see fit in their personal lives.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Why do they care? So there\u2019s the Church of the Our Lady of the Miraculous Interstate. Why do they care if the Church of Our Lady of the Miraculous Interstate doesn\u2019t like gay marriage? What do they care?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, that… (laughing) That stands in a violation of their own personal belief system. To say that you don\u2019t accept their relationship as within your faith or your religion is unacceptable. You can\u2019t have anyone because that would be what they would call discrimination, correct? You\u2019re discriminating against them because you\u2019re refusing to marry them under any faith.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Because they can claim, of course, that they believe what you believe with one exception, and then you\u2019re discriminating against them the same as the couple that said they didn\u2019t want to photograph the wedding because they didn\u2019t believe in it religiously.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. I got it now. Justin basically says that they don\u2019t really care about what they claim to care about. They\u2019re just political activists trying to tear down people they think stand in their way of being perceived as “normal” or what have you. That\u2019s what he thinks. It really isn\u2019t about love and all that. It\u2019s about equality and inequality, fairness and unfairness. I think on the left, yeah. If we\u2019re to believe what Justin thinks, yeah, everything on the left is politics. Everything. Even landing on the aircraft carrier. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: There\u2019s one more Bill Donohue bite here, and it dovetails exactly with the point that Justin made, our caller from West Covina, California. He said, “Hey, this isn\u2019t gonna stop at wedding cakes and photographing wedding ceremonies. The next thing that\u2019s gonna happen is they\u2019re gonna demand a church marry them, and the church is gonna refuse, and Obama\u2019s gonna move in and strip the church of its tax-exempt status and destroy the church unless they marry them.”<\/p>\n

Donohue brings that up here. You should hear this. Again, Donohue was talking to Chris Cuomo at CNN. And Cuomo says to Mr. Donohue, “The question is: Can you point out a business that was made a substantial burden religiously because of what they had to do vis-a-vis a gay person?” Can you point out to me a business that was harmed because it had to patronize a gay customer?<\/p>\n

DONOHUE: A photographer says, “I don\u2019t want to deal with a wedding ceremony.” If that person says, “Listen, the gay people come into my shop, and you\u2019re a gay person, I don\u2019t want to take your picture,” I have no sympathy for these people of faith, all right? When it gets into the question of marriage ceremonies, whether it\u2019s in the secular vein — like I gave an example —<\/line><\/p>\n

CUOMO: Mmm-hmm.<\/p>\n

DONOHUE: — or where we\u2019re going, into the churches.<\/p>\n

CUOMO: No. But we\u2019re not going there!<\/p>\n

DONOHUE: Ohhhhh, I think there are some people —<\/p>\n

CUOMO: Nobody is saying — Nobody is saying that a religious organization has to perform gay marriages. Nobody.<\/p>\n

DONOHUE: If we have a federal administration which ignores the express will of the people in DOMA, and when you have the people in — take an initiative in California saying, “We don\u2019t want gay marriage,” and then you get judges to overturn it, we\u2019re being besieged.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, this is classic, \u2019cause here you have the all-knowing… I don\u2019t know whether this guy\u2019s in on the whole game of the agenda or if he\u2019s a dupe. By that, I mean, Chris Cuomo may actually believe that this was nothing more than weddings and pictures. He may not know that the ultimate aim is to go in and force churches. He may really believe that; I don\u2019t know. <\/p>\n

Donohue\u2019s point is, “Well, where do you think this is headed when you\u2019ve got a Regime who is already denying churches and universities of religious foundation their religious freedom? Where do you think we\u2019re headed here? We\u2019re being besieged,” and Chris Cuomo says, “Naaaaah, this isn\u2019t about churches! Nobody\u2019s talking about going to churches,” and the response to that is: YET. But I think the caller from West Covina, California, has got a point, and I bet it isn\u2019t long. <\/p>\n

After this?<\/p>\n

I mean they got victory after victory after victory. <\/p>\n

Why stop? <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Brian in Omaha, you\u2019re next on the Rush Limbaugh program. Hello, sir. It\u2019s great to have you on the program. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi. My belief is that the political movement about homosexuality is about other people\u2019s money and access to it with via taxation. How many local, state, and now the federal government are providing benefits to homosexual couples? That\u2019s what this is about.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I haven\u2019t thought of that.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Follow the money.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a minute. I haven\u2019t heard this. I want to follow this. You think that the political nature — it is political — of the homosexual movement is about tax money?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Access to other people\u2019s money.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Access to other people\u2019s money?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Through taxation.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay.<\/p>\n

CALLER: “You will support our lifestyle.”<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh. Oh, oh, oh.<\/p>\n

CALLER: In so doing, the behavior will then be legitimized.<\/p>\n

RUSH: “You will support our lifestyle, and in doing so, our behavior will be…” Okay, walk me through an example of what you mean here.<\/p>\n

CALLER: How many governments are now providing benefits to homosexual couples? And in so doing, they\u2019re saying, “Your behavior is legitimate. Homosexuality is a behavior.”<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Correct?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Isn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, it is, and what they want is to legitimize their behavior, to say, “Our behavior is mainstream, despite the fact that we are a very small portion of the population,” and they use bully tactics to get their way.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, look. I understand everybody wants to know that they\u2019re cool and “normal.” I understand. But what is the…? How are they getting other people to support their lifestyle? Walk me through it. What are they doing? I\u2019m not… I\u2019m just asking you. Don\u2019t misunderstand my tone. I\u2019m not arguing with you. I just want to understand, and the best way I can is if you give me an example of tax money somehow being transferred to gay couples for their support.<\/p>\n

CALLER: How many gay couples work for governments? And now homosexual couples are working for the government, and the government is now providing them with benefits, the same as heterosexual couples.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, you mean like in gay marriage? Gay marriage is about acquiring health benefits and other benefits?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, and pretty soon it will be forced upon all businesses throughout the land and religious organizations throughout the land, otherwise you will be considered to be committing some form of hate crime, heaven forbid.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. So to help me —<\/p>\n

CALLER: In so doing, people who do not engage in this risky behavior, well, then are forced to subsidize that risky behavior.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, to help me understand this, let\u2019s use what happened in Arizona. A couple walks in and wants Baker A to bake them a wedding cake and they\u2019re gay. He says, “No. A, I don\u2019t want to have to go to your gay wedding. B, my religious beliefs proscribe it. I\u2019d rather not bake your cake.” So how does that result in that gay couple getting money?<\/p>\n

CALLER: The homosexual couple takes them to court and sues, and the judge says, “Okay, now, you have to do this for them or you will face a penalty.”<\/p>\n

RUSH: I see. So the result is that via the court decision, the baker has to fork over money, which legitimizes the lifestyle that he, on religious grounds, disagrees with, and that stamps it as “normal”?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Absolutely.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. That\u2019s what you mean. Okay. That\u2019s fine. That\u2019s cool. I just want to understand how you thought process goes, \u2019cause I have a rule, “Always follow the money,” but I had not attached that to this. (interruption) Well, that already… (interruption) Yeah. Look, it… (interruption) Well, that\u2019s already… (interruption) Employer, health plans and visitation in the hospital.<\/p>\n

You know, that\u2019s why the civil union thing didn\u2019t work out because aren\u2019t any benefits there. But you allow gay marriage as a legitimate thing, and they\u2019re the benefits and you can leave, you know, your 50\u00c2\u00a2 or whatever in your will to… (interruption) Yeah. Whatever you have. (interruption) Yeah, that\u2019s undeniable, I suppose. The point is, there are a lot of tentacles that are being interwoven. It\u2019s an intricately woven web of deceit, per se, for some people who had not even figured the financial angle of this.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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